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"Whatley Crescent" rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 96-165
most recent 21 JUN SHOW ALL
Initial post 3 DEC 16 by Patricia Routley
This red rose, "Whatley Crescent", recently threw a sport from the base. The sporting bloom was pink, somewhat like 'Briarcliff' (which was a sport of Columbia). I apologise that I was running a bit too fast to stop and take a photo, but I am now wondering if the red "Whatley Crescent" could be 'Red Columbia', 1920.

Later edit. Probably not feasible because so far, I cannot find 'Red Columbia' entering Australia.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 21 JUN by HubertG
Is 'Warrior' from Paul 1906 worth considering? It was a winter flowering tea-like HT.
Discussion id : 108-774
most recent 26 FEB HIDE POSTS
Initial post 26 FEB by Patricia Routley
Would those who grow "Whatley Crescent" please check the references for 'Southport' 1930.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 26 FEB by billy teabag
I see what you mean Patricia. At last a rose with around the right number of petals.
The only thing I can find that doesn't fit is the suggestion that it is a fairly prickly plant (Dawson's nursery catalogue "inclined to be thorny.")
From my quick run through the refs, this is the only complaint I've spotted about prickles and apart from "red spines" in an early ref., the prickles don't get a mention.
References to fragrance are variable. If "Whatley Crescent" is 'Southport', that would fit as sometimes it has quite a strong fragrance and other times you have to work hard to find much.
I wish there was a patent document for this rose with a detailed description we could get our teeth into.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 26 FEB by Patricia Routley
The 1944 p43 reference also talks of thorns. But I recall Karl, years ago, talking of how a rose bush can change its ability to produce thorns, or not. There is also the height - 'Southport' started off life taller than it seemed to end up. I never really checked the books on my bookshelf, so there may be more available, but I will leave it with you. My plant of "Whatley Crescent" is too small to show its true characteristics and I want to explore more 'President Macia' 1933 for "Birte Venske's No. 13" in my next bit of free time.
Discussion id : 98-388
most recent 5 APR 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 5 APR 17 by Patricia Routley
I have added a photo of the pink sport of "Whatley Crescent"
Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 APR 17 by billy teabag
How very special Patricia. It's a lovely colour.
Discussion id : 98-184
most recent 27 MAR 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 27 MAR 17 by Margaret Furness
Compare the ruffled and indented petals on a young plant of Clark's Mrs Albert Nash. I've posted more photos, but see my older photos with hips (which don't match well) and a bud. In my garden it became chlorotic and suckered on its own roots. I think I donated it to Carrick Hill.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 27 MAR 17 by billy teabag
That's very interesting isn't it? It's not the same rose but it's very similar.
It would be handy to know what went into the breeding of 'Mrs Albert Nash'.
I have seen those indented petal edges on a number of Alister Clark roses at times - eg Restless - and they never look as though they are the result of damage but of some variation of expression.
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