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Discussion id : 81-898
most recent 2 DEC 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 30 NOV 14
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 30 NOV 14 by Simon Voorwinde
This is a terrible, offensive, comment and you should be ashamed of yourself for making it. You speak as if it is as easy as taking two 'successful parents', putting them together, and hey-presto... a rose that gets around patents that you can use for your own financial gain. If you had any idea of what went into actually breeding modern roses you would not dare to make such an ill informed and hurtful comment. It takes, literally, years to develop seedlings and none of us are working on our own. We ALL stand on the shoulders of giants and work towards a common goal of developing better, healthier, and more sustainable roses and that means we need to use the best possible parents to do so. Let's also not forget that one of the parents is a seedling that Jim bred himself putting the timeline on this rose to be anywhere upwards of 8-9 years. Jim should be applauded for his work because by releasing it we can now all, one day, use it in our breeding and roses all around the world will benefit from it. If you, indeed, knew anything about breeding roses you would know that almost every single rose bred out of 'Knock Out' has this similar informal flower habit. It (KO) is a ground breaking rose with outstanding health and vigour and despite the challenges of using it we would be crazy not to try. 'Knock Out' has only limited fertility and yet sets a prodigious number of OP hips containing no more than one or two seeds per hip that are also very hard to germinate... making it very difficult to work with. You don't need to be a genius to understand that the close descendants of KO, like 'Thrive', might also have this trait. 'Home Run' has better fertility,however, is still not an easy parent by any stretch of the imagination. On top of that, I know Jim well and I can tell you that you will not find a nicer gentleman who would never make such comments and would try to be constructive and helpful instead of taking cheap potshots. You should apologise and take a leaf out of Jim's book and be more of a gentleman yourself instead of hiding behind the guise of 'freedom-of-speech'.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 30 NOV 14 by sutekesh
Hear, hear!!!!
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 1 DEC 14 by Sambolingo
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 2 DEC 14 by Simon Voorwinde
Yes, Jim is working mainly with Hulthemia. In fact, 'Thrive' was bred in an attempt to breed healthier roses, using healthy parents, which were then intended to be worked into his hulthemia lines. This kind of information can be found on Jim's blog in posts such as this: http://sproulroses.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/seedlings-of-double-knock-out.html .

I have no problem with someone liking a rose or not liking a rose. Taste is a personal thing. However, why not just say that rather than questioning one's motives behind their choice of parents when in actual fact their intent was to breed something of superior health that could then be worked into another breeding line to improve health in it. Along the way, if healthy roses are bred that may be worthy of introduction then it is for the good of roses everywhere that they are.
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Reply #5 of 4 posted 2 DEC 14 by Sambolingo
I sincerely apologize for all conflict created by my original comment. In keeping with the forum of this website, roses, I have removed my comments, which did not contribute to the helpfulness of this source. I see that my comment was ill-informed and hurtful: the product of immaturity on my part, in both understanding of roses and courteous conduct.
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Discussion id : 74-124
most recent 18 SEP 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 18 SEP 13 by Rob Byrnes
Second season with this rose and I love it. Always in bloom, great color, extremely healthy and sets a ton of hips. I can't think of one bad thing to say about her. I wish she had some scent but that's a minor detail.
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Discussion id : 71-788
most recent 21 MAY 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 21 MAY 13 by Jeff Stover
I bought Thrive! in February 2013 and love it. It has been very healthy. I used it as a seen parent this year just to see what it could do. I pollinated some blooms in April and most of the flowers that were blooming at the same time are still fresh and holding on four weeks later. I just hope that the persistent bloom cycle holds for the next flush. This is one great rose.
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