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'Angel Wings' rose Reviews & Comments
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most recent 24 SEP 19 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 10 JAN 16 by Meryl
I just came looking for a rose named "Angel Wings" and was interested to read Simon's comment that he found the seed on eBay. I came looking because I was browsing Royston Petrie's seed catalogue and came across an entry for Rosa Chinensis Angel Wings. Royston Petrie may be the original supplier and perhaps able to provide more information about this rose's origin.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 26 MAR 16 by Simon Voorwinde
Hi Meryl,

Angel Wings is a generic name given to a group of roses that have little to do with chinensis and more to do with multiflora nana. Having germinated quite a few of these roses now I can clearly see the multiflora influence. The name I have given this seedling is a nick name and not a registered name.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 30 MAR 16 by Meryl
Yes, Simon. I'm familiar with this group of roses. Did you see Patricia Routley's article "Rose Marsh" in the Winter 2013 issue of the Journal of Heritage Roses in Australia? It dealt with these roses of which I have several. As you said of your Angel Wings, they make fantastic garden shrubs. I would dearly like a cutting of your beautiful little white. I know how busy you are but any chance? I'd be more than happy to transfer funds to cover the cost. I doubt I have anything sufficiently out-of-the-way nowadays to tempt you to a swap.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 31 MAR 16 by Patricia Routley
Simon, do you think your Angel Wings seeds could have been a selfed R. multiflora nana? It looks very similar to my rose from Katie Spriggs that I have thought was R. multiflora nana. Photos are on HelpMeFind.

Interesting that you Meryl, and Simon both have "Rose Marsh' and Simon has actually grown a seed or two from it. I have added that mouthful of a reference.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 31 MAR 16 by Meryl
Thank you for posting the reference, Patricia. I looked for it on helpmefind before replying to Simon and was disappointed not to find it.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 24 SEP 19 by Plazbo
I bought 5grams from RPSeeds. Given the apparent variability of the seed strain and looking to add better diploid juvenile blooming seed setters that are potentially thornless and of smaller stature (need to minify some species, chinesis and tea types.) I planted all of them...easily over 200, germination rate is quite high. In a month or two will have more info.

-edit- 10 Nov 2019
So many are blooming now. The vast majority of them are pale pink singles. Still too small to determine if they'll stay thornless. There have been a few that are double. 1 so far is double and deep pink approaching red. 1 single that is a bright pink. 1 single medium pink with darker/bluer foliage than the average. 2 had complete powdery mildew (while everything around them is clean). So far none that are true white (just a lot of pale pink that fades to white). Still more to flower, there is some variation as noted above but pale pink single is clearly the norm, very healthy for the most part too. I don't detect fragrance from them but the plants and flowers are quite small so that may change as they get bigger.

Not thornless...not densely thorned but obvious thorns. Will be crossing with completely thornless multiflora and then carrying that forward to the f2 to select thornless juvenile bloomers.

-edit- 9 April 2020
Black Spot (of some type) reared it's head and they all have it to some extent (some worse than others) like mentioned in the '"Angel Wings" selection' entry (separate to this) by Graham D Jenkins-Belohorska, it may be related to them being in pots rather than the ground, given how many of them there are a bunch will be planted out the front in the dead garden beds (rental), a test to see if health improves.

Either way, another thing (health) to select for with the angel wings x thornless multiflora crossings I'll be doing later in the year as thornless multiflora has remained spotless year round, possibly an indicator of it having the Rdr1 and/or Rdr2 genes.
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