'Firebird ®' rose reviews and comments

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'Firebird ®' rose Reviews & Comments

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Discussion id : 115-489 most recent 9 JUN SHOW ALL

Initial post 22 FEB 19 by HMF supporting member

Philip_ATX

On the page for Kordes' Orangerie, Michael Garhart and Robert Neil Rippetoe suggest that this rose, while very healthy, vigorous and free-blooming, has blooms that decay very rapidly, and become very unattractive on the bush in their gardens.

The Kordes Europe site gives Firebird stellar health grades, and in a color range that doesn't usually correlate with great health. Has anyone used it for any breeding? It sounds like a strong plant, flower life notwithstanding, and might have great potential as a prospective parent, if the bush sets hips. Can anybody confirm?

Reply #1 of 4 posted 22 FEB 19 by HMF supporting member

Michael Garhart

Hi, if you look at the pics, I show how badly the color degrades. It was very healthy. The plant was nice, except too tall. It had an odd growth type. Kind of like how 'Long Tall Sally' grows.

It is possible that maybe pollen would work from it with a lot of effort, but it seemed to not prefer to reproduce pollen or seed at will.

Based on the code, it was probably bred from Goldener Sommer 83 and something else.

Reply #2 of 4 posted 22 FEB 19 by HMF supporting member

Robert Neil Rippetoe

Blossoms are brilliant and a beautiful color but are retained too long and end up looking badly faded and very untidy. In my opinion, this is one of those roses that require diligent maintenance in that it should be pruned back after flowering.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 4 posted 24 FEB 19 by HMF supporting member

Philip_ATX

Reply #4 of 4 posted 9 JUN by HMF supporting member

Michael Garhart

Currently growing the newer 'Garden Flame', and it shares a lot of traits. So far, it ages better and retains yellow longer. No idea on mature growth yet, but foliage appears to have downy resistance. No verdict yet. Just notes for now. When I have a verdict for my area, I will try to remember to post it.	REPLY

Discussion id : 125-189 most recent 22 JAN 21 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 22 JAN 21 by Freedom Gardens

Available from - Freedom Gardens http://www.combinedroselist.com/freedom-gardens.html	REPLY

Discussion id : 105-710 most recent 26 SEP 17 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 24 SEP 17 by Unregistered Guest

Available from - palatine roses - in canada: niagara on the hudson	REPLY

Reply #1 of 1 posted 26 SEP 17 by HMF supporting member

HMF Admin

Thank you	REPLY