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"Bissett Cottage Rose" Reviews & Comments
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Hello Andrew, as I promise you I try to find my photos of R. majalis plena from Sangerhausen, but I find only one!, I add to the comments, and I hope it will be helpful
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Thank you Rafael, that is useful because you can see the red stems that this and my rose have that are green on Rosa cinnamomea 'Plena'.
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Reply #5 of 10 posted today by Jay-Jay
Some of my Thérèse Bugnet seedlings look like Your rose. The red twigs would speak for that.
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Reply #6 of 10 posted today by Jay-Jay
R. cinnamomea Plena seems not to have those glands on the flower-buds, like Rafael Maino's rose... and Your rose either.
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Reply #7 of 10 posted today by Andrew from Dolton
I found the rose growing in a hedgerow where an old cottage once stood. Before I saw it in flower I thought it was 'The D'orsay Rose'. When the blooms opened it was obviously different. HMF set up a study page 'Bissett Cottage Rose' and I was contacted by other members who believed it was actually R. cinnamomea 'Plena'.
http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.75130&tab=1
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Reply #8 of 10 posted today by Jay-Jay
Your rose has red twigs, does Cinamomea have those too?
Thérèse Bugnet has!
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Reply #9 of 10 posted today by Andrew from Dolton
Hmmmmm you're right it has green stems, So what do you think my rose could be? I have to say it does not look that similar to any of the parents of 'Thérèse Bugnet'.
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Reply #10 of 10 posted today by Jay-Jay
Andrew maybe the last part of this discussion belongs to the page for Your found rose; 'Bissett Cottage Rose'.
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1 AUG 16 by
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Is there still some questions about identity or should this one be merged with R. majalis plena, Feocundissima?
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Andrew, can we now have a photo of two average leaves, one over and one under, with a ruler alongside?
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Just some more information to fill in some gaps in the description. The inflorescences tend all to be in clusters of three. The pedicel is as smooth as the receptacle. When I remove the petals there are obvious pointels in the blooms. The season for flowering in the west of the U.K. would be last week in May and most of June. When grown as a free standing bush I estimate it to grow 2 metres high by 2 metres wide. It suckers abundantly. I yanked out a 1.5 metre piece of it last October and Planted it in my garden (with the owners' permission) without any cutting back. It is growing very well and has already four vigorous shoots growing from the base. This is a truly horrendous location for blackspot, every year, (the native Rosa arvensis that grows everywhere here is practically defoliated by September) the leaves last year on this Bissett rose were perfectly healthy.
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Wonderful. We'll add that information.
Would you please contact Milton Nurse of the Historic Roses Group. I know he will be interested in this rose and may be able to help further.
For what it is worth, I had noted a stipule which had that red center line. When next I noted it, it was green. I now cannot recall what rose it was, but I wonder now if that characteristic is permanent or seasonal - or occurs in new or old leaves. I am sure someone else wrote that it was a sign of china blood.
Please tell Milton I waved hello.
ps - are there prickles under the leaves, or is the rachis smooth?
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The undersides of the leaves, rachis and all, are completely prickleless and smooth. I have contacted Milton Nurse, passing on all our information (including your wave). I never knew about the H.R.G. and have instantly joined!
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