For something similar, check out 'June Anne'. It has a very nice fragrance and is hardy in your area. They grow it at Peggy Rockefeller. Available from High Country.
Thank you for the recommendation. June Anne looks to be truly a beautiful rose, but I doubt it would flourish in zone 5b and heavy, acid soil. Granted, our climate is rapidly warming; perhaps JA will become possible in a few years.
I can't say if it would tolerate your conditions in 5b.
New York appears to have a number of climate zones. I'm not sure which NYBG includes. You might inquire.
It seems to me this rose was recommended to High Country by a gardener in Denver. How they acquired it as anybody's guess as I only shared it with a few others over the years. I no longer have it here.
I believe the southern tip of NY is zone 7 and the city itself zone 8. Proximity of large bodies of water seems to have a warming effect. The area adjacent to Lake Ontario is zone 6.
If it can grow in Schenectady, it might grow for me in Utica. However, I live in a frost pocket near the Mohawk River. The soil is dense and damp, overlaying yellow clay. Some roses grow fine here, albas and HPs, for example, and "Jeremiah Pink" is huge, and some just don't. "Hattie Burton" grew backwards, the first time I have seen that. The only reason I could think of was that she had lived for so long in the dryer and sandier soils in the Basin and Range that her roots--it was an own root plant--could not penetrate the heavier soil. The lineage of JA, teas on both sides I think, does not inspire confidence, but I would love to find a Noisette that might thrive here, besides Mme. Plantier, if that is what MP is.
Thanks again for the recommendation. This year I am mostly trying to replace albas which were assassinated by an enthusiastic fence builder. But, if the climate continues to warm, more kinds of rose varieties become possible.
