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"Juani de Temperley" rose Reviews & Comments
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It seems to be more of a bush Tea to me, rather than a climber or Noisette.
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How does this rose compare with your Dr Grill HubertG?
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#2 of 4 posted
28 APR 18 by
 HubertG
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It's definitely not the same. Juani appears to be semi-double, or a bit more than this, and the petals seem to 'star' a bit.
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#3 of 4 posted
26 JUL 18 by
HubertG
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"Juani" matches the descriptions of 'Duchesse Marie Salviati' to some degree with the long buds and the chrome orange/yellow with peach shadings. It was more popular apparently in continental Europe than in Britain so possibly could have become popular in Argentina. Soupert & Notting were also the official royal suppliers to Brazil back then, so maybe it could have made its way south from Brazil. However, Duchesse Marie Salviati' had a distinct violet scent, so if Juani doesn't have a violet scent, I'm sure that would rule it out.
Just something to consider.
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#4 of 4 posted
29 MAR 19 by
HubertG
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I'm wondering whether 'Reine Emma de Pays-Bas' by Nabonnand might be a possible contender for the identity of "Juani de Temperley". The early references generally describe golden yellow flushed with salmon. One reference even compares it to 'L'Ideal' in its colouring. Another to 'Fortune's Yellow'. There's an early reference describing Reine Emma's blooms as up to 14cm, and although it is a bit hard to tell from the photos here, "Juani" does seem quite large.
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I just wanted to comment that I really like the new study name. If more foundlings were given attractive study names, such as in this case, more people would be likely to want to grow them, especially if they end up being reintroduced into commerce.
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Pity about where "Guppy St" was found...
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#2 of 10 posted
27 APR 18 by
HubertG
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LOL, that's what I mean. These roses need to be classified logically but a little aesthetic foresight might go a long way.
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It's not just study names that are problematic. There are plenty of registration names which are about as poetic as a bowl of cold tripe.
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You could refer to it as "Poecilia thoroughfare" if you want it to sound posher.
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#5 of 10 posted
27 APR 18 by
HubertG
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LOL, maybe even Mme Poecilia de Thoroughfaire.
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Or even "Mme Poecilia de Thoroughfaire, Comtesse de la Rue".
That would knock Mme Wagram off its perch for silliest name. ;)
Edit: By the way, I've always wanted to grow 'Ferdinand Pichard', just so I could nickname it "Fred the Stripey Cabbage".
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#7 of 10 posted
27 APR 18 by
HubertG
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Hahahaha!
Patricia, is it too late to change my Dr Grill rose to 'Madame la Docteure Barb Ecué?
And sorry Rafael for hi-jacking your listing a bit. You have a nice rose with a lovely name. I hope you get some good suggestions for it.
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"Guppy St" is probably Mrs Harold Brocklebank, which isn't much of an improvement. But it's a wonderful rose
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Thank you HubertG!!, and the poor Juani she does not even know that I put her name to a rose, ( I should probably tell her....)
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#10 of 10 posted
30 APR 18 by
HubertG
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Rafael, yes, I'm sure she would be delighted!
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Rafael - I have added a couple of ideas to the main page for "Juani de Temperley". They are just roses to consider in the search for its true name.
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Hi Patricia, I think it's not "Dr. Grill", "Juani" does not have as many petals, and they are not so rounded, Juani always open like a star
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