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'Mill's Beauty' rose Reviews & Comments
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4 OCT 20 by
 jedmar
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One of the mysterious roses in L'Haÿ is 'Mill's Beauty' (hybrid setigera). It is probable that this climber and also 'Miller's Climbing' (hybrid arvensis) came from Scipion Cochet's collection of climbers at Suisnes, where they are both documented from the late 1880's. The latter rose apparently died in 1915 and does not exist anymore. It was described as "blanc liséré rose", i.e. white edged pink, and thus was not identical to 'Miller's Climber' (pink), known since the mid 1830s.
It seems to me that some of the names in Cochet's collection have to be taken with a pinch of salt. Some questions:
- What could be the correct name for a hybrid arvensis or Ayrshire "white edged pink". Possibly a different class at all?
- Is 'Mill's Beauty' really 'Miller's Climber'?
- In the 1826 catalogue of John Miller, Bristol Nursery, there is a Boursault 'Miller's purple'. Is this 'Miller's climber? The photos of Amiroses of 'Mill's Beauty' show the typical white streaks of Rosa chinensis influence. Is Boursault instead of hybrid setigera a more appropriate class?
Has anyone seen later catalogues by the Bristol Nursery?
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4 OCT 20 by
HubertG
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Although this doesn't specifically address your enquiry, I did find an entry for 'Miller's Climbing' in Heinrich Lorberg's catalogue for his Berlin collection of roses dating from the 1840s/50s (date uncertain) under "Capreolata alba pl.". There are lots of handwritten annotations in that catalogue; perhaps it's mentioned as well in these side notes but unfortunately I don't have the time to review them at the moment.
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4 OCT 20 by
jedmar
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Thank you for the heads up! Downloaded the catalogues from the website of the Technical University Berlin. The undated catalogue is estimated 1847, and there is a dated one from 1852. Comparing the range of Ayrshires (Capreolata) with other listings, it seems to me that 'Miller's Climbing' of Lorberg is 'Miller's Climber'. Unfortunately he does not give a colour designation. The handwritten notes do not pertain to any Ayrshires.
Upon further search, I beileve that 'Miller's Climbing' at L'Hay was actually 'Dundee Rambler' : small, white edged pink, semi-double to double.
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