I agree. I acquired La France from Heirloom Roses several years ago from stock that John Clements procured. Several times my version has been questioned. Based on every description I've read and all of the older botanical prints of this rose I believe we have the true La France. I've seen the incorrect plant in several prominent public and private gardens identified as La France. One particular garden grows both cultivars in the same bed with both labeled as La France. I understand why so many people are confused about this wonderful rose. If you like pink and wonderful old rose fragrance this one is a must have.