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Initial post 12 OCT 08 by Leslie Davis
I think Moonstone is a beautiful rose and I just had to have it for my garden. I was disappointed to find out it doesn't do well in the hot summers of the valley. First the aphids and then the thrips ate it up and then the blistering heat took over for the next 4 months. Oct now and I'm just getting some decent blooms again after 5 months. I would caution anyone who lives where it gets above the 90's from obtaining this rose, unless you're willing to wait for those few months it isn't that hot and you don't mind thrips damage in the months they're present.
Reply #1 of 9 posted 17 DEC 10 by Penelope
Too bad. This was on my "Gotta Have it List". Our summers here in Dallas are just like yours, generally getting to around 105 in August. I think 108 was our high last summer.
Reply #2 of 9 posted 17 DEC 10 by Lyn G

Thank you for sharing this information. I have added that "this rose prefers cool climates" to the rose page so that other site guests will have the information when they are making their purchasing decisions.

Reply #3 of 9 posted 17 DEC 10 by Rosaholic's Southern California Garden
Hmmm-- this rose does not like MY cooler climate. It thrives in East San Diego in my mother's garden, but here on the coast, most blooms ball up and refuse to open.
Reply #4 of 9 posted 17 DEC 10 by Lyn G
Should I also add "prefers dry climates" ? It's possible that 'Moonstone' can't take the prolonged heat of the central valley of California, but can handle the coastal heat of areas like San Diego ?

Reply #6 of 9 posted 17 DEC 10 by Rosaholic's Southern California Garden
I actually think that what this rose needs is heat . . .
I'm really surprised to see someone saying it does NOT like heat.
It does really well at the rose shows in the desert areas.
Reply #9 of 9 posted 12 AUG 15 by boopie
I agree that this rose can take the dry heat. I live in zone 10 in So Cal and this rose is one of my better performers in the late summer months. Half of my roses I summer prune in August as they just don't perform well in the heat. But this rose produces reliably beautiful blooms, growing in full sun. I have a Francis Meiland growing next to Moonstone. Depending on the time of the year, it is hard to tell them apart. But in the heat Francis looses it form, becomes bleached out and just ugly. So I prune Francis in August, but I let Moonstone bloom all summer. In cooler weather I think it is a nice rose bush, but I think it's strength is in how it handles the summer heat. Very nice rose for cutting, and it keeps its form and color in my garden in the heat, when other roses can't.
Reply #7 of 9 posted 27 AUG 12 by CarolynB
Are you saying that Moonstone doesn't do well when temperatures are in the 90s? Or that it does well in the 90s but it doesn't do well when temperatures are in the 100s? I live on the borderline between the central valley and the east bay area, and I'm wondering if this would be a good area to grow this rose. Our summer temperatures are usually in the 90s, but only get into the 100s occasionally for a few days at a time.
Reply #8 of 9 posted 27 AUG 12 by Lyn G

It's hard to say if the rose will do in your garden. It has take me years to find the roses that can handle my heat, which is in the high 90s and low 100s for most of the summer months.

What I have found is that most roses will crisp when it gets to 100+. i looked at the roses that managed well in my heat and found that roses that had thick petal substance were the roses that held up to the heat the best. The patent on Moonstone says that the petal substance is medium-thick.

I'd suggest you look around your garden and determine which plant characteristics work best for you and use that as a guideline for selecting new roses.

Reply #10 of 9 posted 12 AUG 15 by Nastarana
You might want to consider what exposure would be best. When I gardened in the Central Valley, I found that only the toughest roses, like 'Manchester Guardian Angel' could tolerate a west exposure, with its' hot, dry winds. I wonder if 'Moonstone' might be best placed to the north side of your house or the east. If you are like me, the east side is prime real estate which fills up fast.
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Initial post 27 JUL 13 by Hartwood
Leslie, do you still grow 'Patty Lou'?
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Initial post 11 MAY 12 by Leslie Davis
Available from - Burlington Rose Nursery
Reply #1 of 1 posted 11 MAY 12 by Lyn G
Thank you.
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Initial post 7 MAR 09 by Leslie Davis
Still puzzled why this is under the class of Hybrid Tea when the patent is for Grandiflora. Grows like one too and was sold by as one also by nurseries. I did see the note below with the Hybridizer.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 7 MAR 09 by Cass
The rose was registered with the ARS as a hybrid tea, which is the prerogative of the person or entity registering the rose. Now that you've clarified that it grows like a grandiflora, HMF will add that classification to the information about this rose, along with the registration information. Thanks for your insight.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 16 SEP 09 by John Moody
Many times a hybridyzer will register their rose as a hybrid tea rather than a grandiflora just because more people prefer the hybrid tea to the grandiflora and the resulting sales of the rose will be better classed as a HT than a GR.
You have to make up your own mind if that is a bit sneaky or not. I have seen it many many times before.
However, I have had an instance or two just the opposite. A rose is classified as a grandiflora and the rose I get rarely ever throws multiples or sprays when blooming. I think you just have to research and study and hopefully get what you want.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 23 MAR 11 by Leslie Davis
What ever class this has, it's a giant in my garden and for 10 months a year, I use it to fragrance my bath with daily roses. :)
Reply #4 of 4 posted 18 MAY 11 by CarolynB
I thought the purpose of grouping roses into classes was to give people an idea of their likely growth habits and blooming features, to help them make more informed choices. If the hybridizer is allowed to register a rose as whatever class he or she chooses, for personal reasons like money, then this purpose isn't being well served.
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