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24 FEB by
Chris
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Available from - fina gardens
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High Country Roses is offering a moss rose under this name. The picture on their website does show quite attractive mossing. It is a foundling they think they have correctly IDed.
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3 JAN 19 by
jedmar
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I always wonder how someone can ID a rose which has not been in gardens or nurseries for over 150 years. For all purposes 'Bérenger' should be considered extinct.
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I am afraid I can't answer that. The foundling, whatever it might be, does look charming. I might like to grow it. What surprises me is that Fairmount Cemetery, where a number of unnamed roses seem to have been found, kept no records of cultivars.
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#3 of 3 posted
23 FEB by
Chris
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there's a saying "you can't never tell."
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12 AUG 08 by
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'New Dawn' is a rose I have selected--due to its color, significance of name, and the fact that it probably would have been available to the lay gardener in the early 1950's--to be included in a story I am writing. For Zone 7 in Alabama, does anyone know where this rose could have been purchased? (I am guessing through a mail-order catalog.) Also, I am looking for a popular public place (i.e. famous rose garden) in the south or on the east coast where it might have been grown and available for viewing. I need to be historically accurate, and I would appreciate any information. Thank you.
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Roy Hennessey in Scappoose, Oregon carried 'New Dawn' in his 1954-55 catalogue and he used to ship by mail order. Actually you could write a whole book about Roy and his catalogues.
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13 AUG 08 by
Lyn G
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Wasn't Hennessey great ? I would have loved to have known him.
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13 AUG 08 by
Lyn G
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There are several tabs at the top of each rose page. You might want to look at the REFERENCES tab, the COMMENTS tab, the GARDENS tab and, of course, the BUY FROM tab. There is a wealth of good information under those tabs.
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#4 of 5 posted
1 JUN 09 by
Chris
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new dawn is the first patented horticulture in the u.s. it was found as a sport of"Dr VanFleet" in a Connecticut nursery inthe earlier part of the century,i believe. I do not know where in ct. but i have planted it, calling this grandlady, the "Connecticut Rose."
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10 JAN 19 by
Cissy
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Biltmore House has rose gardens now. I have the impression that these always existed even if in a smaller form. You could check this.
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The rose previously sold in New Zealand as May Queen has been identified as Edmond Proust. It may be that the rose sold in New Zealand as "Old Danish" is the true May Queen (or at least, what is grown in Australia under that name: there appear to be several different roses in the hmf photos).Thanks to Barbara for sending me photos, and to Pat and Patricia for suggesting the ID.
Would someone in the US, May Queen's homeland, please post detailed photos?
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16 JUL 18 by
Chris
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margaret thought there was a May Queen in Elizabeth park in Hartford, Ct but i was approached by a friend in the Ct Rose Society and asked if i wanted to choose a rambler from a list made available, i believe Steve Scaniello,,,,my first and lucky choice was May Queen I believe years ago Dan russo showed it to me in the garden at EP and told me that there were 2 May Queens! oh boy!
but i now have one and whe it blooms next year, remind me and i will get my son to send you photos
blessings!
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I posted two photos of the 'May Queen' I received from Vintage Gardens in 2003. They claimed it was the Van Fleet version that they acquired from Schultheis. Manda also released into commerce a 'May Queen' the same year contributing to some confusion. Unfortunately, 'May Queen' has finished blooming now for the season.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.268659
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Thank you. I'm tempted to think it the best of the ramblers! But there are so many other lovely ones. A Heritage Roses member plants Manchurian pears to grow them up, which keeps them off the ground, but could be expensive if you have many.
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In my garden 'May Queen' is not much of a rambler; it is actually very procumbent. It only grows less than a meter high and then starts growing outward another meter and rooting whenever it touches the ground. I could probably dig up half a dozen and have distributed it around my property where I want to cover a bank.
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My first plant went up and along a fence. My second (from the same source, ie dug up from beside a park where it was being mowed) wants to be procumbent, like yours. A visitor suggested putting an old tyre around it, to stop it spreading by rooting down.
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