My email box was full and "bounced back" for four days before I realized there was a problem. Thank you, Kim Rupert, for replying to me and giving me so much helpful information, and I'm enjoying everyone's feedback very much. I will take your advice regarding "Fiona" and keep looking. Where I live in the DC area, there are two roses that I can't identify (I am new to this "sight-reading" roses) located on the grounds of an apartment building: one is definitely a species rose, the other is a deep, beet-root purple that is exquisite. My neighbor always had the landscapers chop it down in the summer because she complained about "bugs" in her apartment, and I couldn't talk her out of leaving it alone. I took cuttings and sent them to Carolyn Supinger, but they didn't root. I may have done this improperly. The species is, of course, once-blooming for about three weeks at the end of May here, is deep pink, cupped , 20 petals (I think), has a sharp, lovely sweet, myrrh fragrance, blue-green foliage and the stems have small, intermittent thorns. This rose blooms in full shade, to my surprise, and it suckers. However, I was never able to ascertain its full height because the landscapers (again) kept cutting it. Is anyone able to give me an idea what this is? I will have to describe the purple one in detail if I get a reply. I did call several rosarians in my area, but none would come out to look at these two roses. I filled out research forms by ARS and Antique Rose Emporium-no luck). By the way, J. Benjamin Williams, who used to live near my late mother, visited her when her Gruss an Aachen sported. He was so excited that he stepped all over her impatiens getting to her rose. (Hey, what are impatiens compared to a "sport"). He couldn't, unfortunately, recommend that I try a cutting because the stem was young and thin, and it was the only one. Thanks, everyone. Sincerely, Victoria Blue Wolf.