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Hi guys,
The following [Dutch] nursery keeps coming up in the nursery listings for New Zealand (it is in Zeeland, Netherlands):
Bierkreek, kwekerij, de
Cheers
Kiwirose
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It is include because they ship to New Zealand and as such New Zealanders can order from them.
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#2 of 4 posted
6 MAY 09 by
Kiwirose
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They may potentially supply material to commerical growers, but the public cannot order from them - it is practically impossible to import plant material into NZ (we can't even order seeds from overseas suppliers).
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Thank you Kiwirose, you're well informed! And Cheers to you too.
Geertje
Kwekerij De Bierkreek
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Thank you Kiwirose. We will ask them to update their HMF nursery listing to reflect this.
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27 MAR 08 by
 Cass
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We need help from the Netherlands!
Did S.G.A. Doorenbos, the well-known Director of Parks at The Hague, introduce this rose? Does anyone know when or any more details? I've found hints of many plant introductions by him, from the 1930's through the late 1950's, but I find nothing about this rose.
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Dear Cass,
I was unable to find any mention of 'Doorenbos Selection' but I did come up with
Sam McGredy's address at the 1971 International Rose Convention in Hamilton New Zealand wherein he said:
At the other end of the scale we want roses with no heps for one of the most important types of roses they raise are varieties for parks. This is entirely different to breeding roses for the home garden and in Europe in particular there is a vast market and a nursery may expect orders for fifteen thousand to twenty thousand roses of one variety from a local authority for planting in their areas, not only in parks but on traffic roundabouts and so on. What they require are far different from what the ordinary rose society member wants. For example, though he obviously would not breed for this, they do not care about the shape of the bloom; One of the most successful in Holland is 'Anneke Doorenbos', an impossible name and an absolutely impossible flower. Every bloom quarters and there is absolutely no shape, but it is one of the most popular roses in Holland, for it is so plain and so very healthy.
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#4 of 4 posted
15 DEC 08 by
Cliff
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Patricia,
I was quite surprised to read what Sam McGredy had to say about 'Anneke Doorenbos' for its blooms have fairly good form and are pleasant in my high desert climate. Perhaps this is a rose that needs more warmth than it gets in Holland for it to be at its best.
Cliff
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28 MAR 08 by
Kiwirose
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Cass,
I know nothing about Doorenbos, but your post led me to look up 'Doorenbos Selection' and I was immediately struck by the similarity to the hybrid rugosa 'Ann Endt'. This is, like most rugosa hybrids, continuous flowering unlike DS's single flowering season, but both the flowers and foliage appear remarkably similar (perhaps Ann Endt is a rugosa hybridised with R. spinossisima not R. foliolosa as surmised?)
Kiwirose
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28 MAR 08 by
Cass
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Very interesting observation. And Ken Nobbs in New Zealand is known to have hybridized a Rosa spinosissima with Rosa rugosa, as did Canadian hardy rose breeders (many times). I think something as unique as Ann Endt would have caught their eye.
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I have just seen this rose growing in the Trevor Griffiths Rose Garden in Timaru, New Zealand, and it is a stunner! The flowers are the deepest, darkest blood red. Very, very beautiful and immediately on my 'find room for it' list.
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Available from - D & S Nurseries
www.4arose.co.nz
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