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When the description says almost thornless.... just how thornless is 'Trier' meant to be? Mine, from Misty Downs (Australia) is very thorny. Is 'Moonlight' thorny?
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9 JUN 13 by
Bernhard
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Hi Simon,
of course, just uploaded this pic:
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.226943
cheers
Bernhard
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Danke Bernhard... the other photos of 'Trier' that show the stems also show plenty of thorns... the flowers on my 'Trier' seem to be smaller than the most recent photos show too.
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I too have uploaded photos of 'Trier', (and 'Moonlight' - and "Not Moonlight").
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I don't have any flower shots of my 'Trier' at the moment but my plant seems quite different to all your photos. The leaves look more narrow and multiflora-like and the flowers smaller.
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Mistydowns is no longer listing 'Trier' (that I could see), although it was in their 2005 catalogue as a Rambler. They may have realised they might have been selling something else as 'Trier' and taken it off the market.
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My Trier came from the then Thomson nursery in 2005, and I think their heritage roses came from Mistydowns. Prickles on mine are mainly on old stems, with a few on younger stems. The younger stems are burgundy at present.
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I bought mine from Misty Downs back in 2009-2010... can't remember which. I've taken some photos and uploaded them today.
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My 'Trier' has a couple of tiny clusters at the moment. Very young buds. The pedicels have distinct white hairs under a hand lens. I would like to note them on a mature bloom and I suspect they may be villose.
'Moonlight' seems to have smooth pedicels.
and "Not Moonlight" pedicel has tiny dark pedicellate glands.
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Like this: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.227030
I noticed this downy look this afternoon.
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Not sure. I'll watch my buds for a few weeks until they are bigger and try to post a comparative photo.
In the meantime if anyone overseas has 'Trier' and a zoom lens.....a side on shot of the bud and pedicel would help a great deal.
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My 'Trier' has a hook every 4 inches of so. Easy to prune.
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Nice seedling Bernhard, interesting speckles in comparison to the other photos.
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16 SEP 15 by
Bernhard
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Thank you,
nice is the little sister of ......Due to the stronger petal structure in the 2nd year, the ( burned) black spots escaped. Pitty, but the rose grows well.
Cheers
Bernhard
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Is this Noack's 'Alpengruss' of 1974? If so, I have some pictures that I would like to upload. But first you will have to add a fuller description. Please could you let me know?
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Added as much as I can find. Your photos will be welcome
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17 JUL 15 by
Bernhard
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'Alpengrüss' is wrong and makes no sense.
It is correctly 'Alpengruß'
Cheers
Bernhard
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Agreed, but for an English-speaking website it would be best described as 'Alpengruss'. CQ-R.
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I have now uploaded a couple of pictures. Would it be a good idea, now, to close this correspondence please? It seems to have run its course. CQ-R.
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Bernard - I tried adding Alpengruß as a synonym but the database said it was already listed.
Charles - Comments are never actually "closed". One may reply to a comment added years ago if more data comes to light on the subject in question.
I like to start my day with a coffee and the Q and A forum (under RESOURCES in the left hand column). All recent comments and questions are there for the world to see and replies are often generated sharing insights and expertise.
Later edit. NEW/RECENT > REVIEWS/COMMENTS is an easier way to access the daily Q and A forum.
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18 JUL 15 by
styrax
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Well, darn! That is actually a blue rose!
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18 JUL 15 by
Bernhard
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At least it has blue moments....
Cheers
Bernhard
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