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I live near Chicago (zone 5), and I put in Palmengarten Frankfurt three years ago. It has proved hardy without winter protection, and is 99% blackspot free, despite an overhead automatic watering system and only about five hours of full sun a day. It was somewhat slow to get established but is now quite beautiful. It is one of my last roses to bloom, beginning at the end of June, but its combination of good looks and disease resistance make up for the shorter season. I am delighted to have it.
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Hi, thanks for your review of Palmengarten Frankfurt. I was wondering if you thought this would make a decent container plant? I understand this grows only 2-3' tall but what's been your experience? Thanks
Dee
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Hi Dee,
the height is indeed only 2-3 ft., but it takes awhile to establish properly -- two or three years. So unless you live in a climate where it can winter over, I'm not sure it will reach its full glory as a container plant. Good luck!
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This is a brand new rose for me, so I can only say that I like the color and the fragrance is fantastic. It's color is pink with orange in it.
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Does it repeat well? Is it floriferous when it is in bloom?
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16 OCT 08 by
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It does repeat, not very well during hot summer. Mine is now (16th Octber) with a cluster of 5 flowers of good size, colour and perfume, I got this plant in late spring this year in bad conditions, so I guess it may flower much better. Totally disease free !
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27 JAN 06 by
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Lovlier in person than in pictures, a carefree rose for cold zones. Nice (but not strong) fragrance, hardy, good repeat. During the cool weather of autumn the interior of the bloom is a lovely, constrasting darker pink/mauve, making a striking bloom when fully open. Quite disease resistant. Grows willingly and steadily and is vigorous.
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You mentioned that Mike's Old-Fashioned Pink is a carefree rose for cold zones... how cold? It is only rated as hardy to 6b; do you have any idea how it would do in a 5b area? Also, is it by any chance blackspot resistant? It's awfully pretty, but I would like to have a better idea of how it might act before I purchase it.
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4 JUL 08 by
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Hi. This rose is growing in zone 5A, upstate NY, near Albany. After 4 or 5 years the canes are about 5 feet tall. The plant is about 3.5 feet wide. I would guess that it would get larger in a warmer zone.
As with any rose that is grown in colder climates with short growing seasons, it needs a good 2-3 years to "come into its own", although this rose was productive and vigorous when young. It reliably improves with age/maturity. Canes get long and thick and are self-supporting. Foliage is lush. Leaves are of a modern type -- heavy substance, somewhat shiny. It never looks leggy or naked along the canes, unless the sawfly larvae go unchecked and skeletonize most of the leaves.
Blooms occur all over the plant, not just at the ends of the canes. It finished its spring flush about 3 weeks ago, and is setting more buds. As with most roses, the first flush is the most impressive, but repeat is generous and the blooms are eye-catching.
I prefer fragrant roses, and this rose has none that I can detect, but I like this rose so much that the lack of fragrance is not a disappointment.
Just ran outside to look and there's no blackspot yet, although other roses, like the Damasks, are showing some in the no-spray garden. It has had reasonably good bs resistance in the past, but it does show some eventually. Blackspot is later and less invasive than on most roses. In a humid climate there are very few roses that won't get some level of blackspot. Your mileage may vary.
Depending on blackspot pressures in your individual climate, you may fight it less often on this rose, but it is not entirely immune to blackspot. I'm still searching for a rose that is, and have only found one so far that comes close to being resistant -- Fields of the Wood -- but by the end of the summer even that one will have a few black spots on the leaves.
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13 JUL 06 by
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Is Eglantyne Shade tolerant? I have a spot with 3-4 hours of good sun that I would like to put it in. |
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It will do fine. I have mine in dappled shade with hardly any direct sun, no irrigation and no food. It didn't survive centuries in the wild for nothing.
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16 JUL 06 by
waoneal
I'm sorry, I was talking about the English roses that was introduced in about 1994. |
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16 JUL 06 by
Jody
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Hi, if you check out the David Austin site he says the most English Roses will do well in shade, with 3-4 hrs of sun , with extra care. A side note he says the rose is named after the Shropshire woman who founded Save the Children Fund, Eglantyne Jebb www.davidaustinroses.com Jody
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17 JUL 06 by
Wendy C
It's been my experience that if Austin roses are in less then optimal conditions they tend to get spindly. Weak canes are a recipe for blooms in the dirt. If it were me I'd look at something like Darlow's Engima for your shaded area. Best of luck |
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As was pointed out a fe days ago, I eagerly mistook the Austin Eglantyne for the old favorite sweet briar Eglantine. So I withdraw my recommendation for shade and agree with Wendy that Austin roses droop at the best of times, let alone in shade, and would look at ramblers like Darlow's Enigma or Rugosas. Margo
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My Dark Lady drooped because of her enormous blooms, until I began feeding her a pair of banana peels, blended to mush in my blender, once or twice a season. This solved the problem 100%. (Don't use whole bananas -- peels only!) I live in zone 5 and I have four Dark Ladies -- two in full sun and two in partial shade. This treatment works for all of them.
Oops! This should have been posted as a reply to discussion 10-119 below.
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Just delete this post after doing control-"A" to copy everything and paste the contents into a new post on the proper topic.
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