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PhotoCynthia's Style™ most recent 24 JUN 19 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 24 JUN 19 by Pat Wallace zone 5a Illinois

I purchased the rose Cynthia’s Style in a HGTV. Home pot with tag. I ave a photo of the tag that has a bit of information on it. Will upload if you wish. I love this rose so much it is a shame that I can’t seem to find it anywhere.	REPLY

RoseSweet Drift ® most recent 15 JUN 19 SHOW ALL

Initial post 3 JAN 16 by Pat Wallace zone 5a Illinois

In my yard in northern Illinois Sweet Drift is highly susceptible to mildew. I grew this rose several years ago and it was shovel pruned. There has been so much talk of drift roses these days. My skills as a rose gardener improved thru the years and my soil is much improved. I replanted Sweet Drift to see if there would be any improvement. It has now completed two full years. Both years covered from head to toe in powderery mildew.

Reply #1 of 5 posted 4 JAN 16 by HMF supporting member

Nastarana

Have you considered replacing with one of the Medilland series? Those were released before the Drift series. I have grown 'Pink Medilland', 'White Medilland' and 'Alba Medilland", and I think they are all excellent cultivars. I don't recall ever seeing mildew on any of those three.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 5 posted 4 JAN 16 by Pat Wallace zone 5a Illinois

Thank you for your suggestion. I have found suitable alternatives for my area. Flower Carpets and several of the smaller Kordes ground cover rose grow very well here. They are nearly disease free in my no spray garden. I also have 2 from the drift series that have done well but are only in their first year. Far too young too comment on.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 5 posted 4 JAN 16 by HMF supporting member

Nastarana

Which carpets and ground cover roses do you like? I have 'Green Snake", a true creeping ground cover from Lens in Belgium. The leaves are completely spotless here in blackspot central, and the plants survive my cold, wet winters, also 5a, with no protection of any kind, but the flowers are insignificant.	REPLY

Reply #5 of 5 posted 15 JUN 19 by AnnaR

I have Flower Carpet Apple Blossom planted in part-shade. A very healthy spreading plant, nice flowers true to their "apple blossom" name. Comes into its own after second season in the ground. Blooms even in partial shade. The color goes well with cold pinks, purples and lilacs.	REPLY

Reply #4 of 5 posted 15 JUN 19 by AnnaR

Agree entirely about mildew. The bloom was s lovely that I even used copper fungicide spray - once only in my no spray garden. The next year this lovely rose was again covered with mildew and was deported to a spray garden of a less demanding friend.	REPLY

RoseBelinda's Dream (Shrub, Basye, 1988) most recent 20 MAR 18 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 20 MAR 18 by Pat Wallace zone 5a Illinois

I have tried Belinda's Dream twice in my garden. Nearly put one in again after hearing so much talk about it. The rose was indeed hardy here in the years that I had her. Crown hardy that is but not cane hardy. My problem with rose was constant balling then rotting of the flowers. I live where we have heavy dew during a lot of the growing season. Belinda's Dream could not over the obstacles here. It is difficult to grow most heavily petaled roses here. Thru the years I have managed to find some that open well

RoseAdobe Sunrise™ most recent 11 DEC 17 SHOW ALL

Initial post 30 JUL 17 by Hani

Reply #1 of 12 posted 30 JUL 17 by HMF supporting member

Nastarana

Reply #2 of 12 posted 30 JUL 17 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

Reply #3 of 12 posted 3 AUG 17 by Hani

Thanks for your replies. I asked because I recently bought a potted rose from a local plant reseller (unfortunately, roses sold locally here come unlabelled) and I'm trying to identify it. The bloom color is definitely salmon, the blooms are borne in clusters (so I thought probably a floribunda), petal count is 50+, bloom size is about 2-3 inches in diameter (I read that it's normal for blooms to be smaller in hot climates), and I would describe the fragrance intensity as moderate. The bush is on the short side, about a foot tall, and the leaves don't seem small enough to be a miniature. One of the candidates just by looking at the pictures online was Adobe Sunrise. But if its fragrance isn't mentioned in catalogs then I'll have to eliminate Adobe Sunrise from my list of candidates.

Reply #4 of 12 posted 3 AUG 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

Nice pictures !! Since I always shop for glossy-foliage, I notice that Abode Sunrise has ROUNDER & glossier & shinier foliage than your pictures. But leaves do become glossier if fed alkaline minerals, so the shape of the leaves is the best guideline. And the height of the bush is another good guideline.	REPLY

Reply #5 of 12 posted 3 AUG 17 by Hani

Thanks for the tips about identification! Will definitely take note of the leaves when I look at candidates. And also take a second look at my plant's leaves. Since my plant is relatively young, I'll have to wait and see how tall it gets as it gets older.

Also thanks for the advice about how to make the leaves glossy! I have a (stupid) question though... what kind of fertilizers would have alkaline minerals? Does vermicompost have alkaline minerals?

Reply #6 of 12 posted 3 AUG 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

Hani: It's a very smart question, alkaline minerals are in rocks, pea-pebbles, and esp. heavy clay. Worm-casting is rich in humus (organic matter) which chelates well to trace-elements required by roses, such as iron, zinc, copper, manganese, etc. My most healthy roses were when I topped with COMPOSTED horse manure. Worm-casting is even better than horse manure (has medications & salty-urine). From the web:
"Vermicomposting, or vermiculture, enlists a small army of worms to turn organic plant wastes (food parings, rinds, peels and lawn clippings, for instance) into rich plant food, known as "worm castings."

The anti-fungal trace-elements of zinc, copper, and boron need ORGANIC matter to chelate to, same with iron. So worm-casting help roses with trace-elements to be healthy. But for the glossy-shine on leaves, any hard-minerals in the soil will do. One time I soaked colorful pea-pebbles in acidic rain water, and after 1 week of watering, leaves went from dull to shiny & glossy. Same with topping with my alkaline clay (rich in minerals).

Reply #7 of 12 posted 4 AUG 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

Your blooms look like 'Soleil d'Or' which is a smaller rose with strong scent, plus dull foliage like your leaves. 'Soleil d'Or' is known to thrive in dry & hot climate & alkaline clay.	REPLY

Reply #10 of 12 posted 5 AUG 17 by Hani

Thanks for the suggestion! Soleil d'Or seems a very interesting rose. Though I would worry if it is Soleil d'Or since I live in the tropics where there isn't even a pronounced dry season (basically the two seasons are wet and wetter :p), so it might just die from fungal diseases. Actually I think it might be Cimarosa (http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.27995), leaf shape looks similar, leaf edge is reddish when young, flower color is orange-pink, bloom form is "old-fashioned", is fragrant, bush is short, and it was introduced long enough ago that it would find its way in some random nursery in rural Philippines somehow. But of course, I can't be 100% sure until I see an actual labelled Cimarosa growing here.

Reply #8 of 12 posted 4 AUG 17 by HMF supporting member

Nastarana

Any chance it could be 'Spartan'? http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.76388 Short bush and fragrance both sound like 'Spartan', also the glossy foliage. OTOH, 1950s floribundas rarely show up any more in mass market pots or body bags, and some of the pix show a pinker cast. 'Spartan for me was more orange than pink and very double.	REPLY

Reply #9 of 12 posted 4 AUG 17 by HMF supporting member

Patricia Routley

I don't believe it is 'Spartan' which for me, has foliage of a blue-ish tint, and rounded petals. The pointed tipped petals in Hani's photos are reminiscent of some miniatures and I would guess, from the height that it may be a mini-flora.	REPLY

Reply #11 of 12 posted 5 AUG 17 by Hani

Thanks for the suggestions! The flower color in my plant is lighter in color than Spartan's. At first I also thought my plant might be a miniature since it's on the short side, but the leaves aren't small like I see in my miniatures. Or are there big-leaf miniatures? If so, I'll have to check the miniatures. I haven't been growing roses for long (just started a few months ago, so I have lots to learn), so I don't really know. I think my rose might be Cimarosa (http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.20562&tab=1), the picture and description are similar to my rose's. But of course I can't be 100% sure until I see an actual labelled Cimarosa growing hereabouts to compare.

Reply #12 of 12 posted 11 DEC 17 by Pat Wallace zone 5a Illinois

Hani, If your rose is young it could also be the Kordes floribunda Jolie.	REPLY