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Nice. It looks a little beat up from something, but I can still see the potential in it.
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Yes, we had some wind about that time. I got to it too late in the day and we were very warm then. This Spring I should have a better idea of what I've got.
Thanks, Robert
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Yeah, that's nature for you, lol. I cant wait to see it when it is more mature.
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It's vigorous! It just went into a 15 gallon size container and I'll bet it outgrows that in no time.
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And I was right. Lookit that form! So pretty.
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Yes, there are moments of grandeur. There are two seedlings. Both are beautiful and both have that color I enjoy so much. They really need to be on a gazebo or similar structure.
They should be spread around a bit so I can get reports from others. I have a feeling they would go crazy in Florida and the gulfs states but then again they might just love it in Oregon. ;-)
Multiflora influence should make them a bit more hardy than the seed parent..
Thanks, Robert
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Well, it has been over a year later. I dont think I like this rose because it only wants to bloom twice per growing seasons (May thru September), and doesn't like to send out a lot of new basals. The blooms are nice, and it is healthy, however. HTs with colors similar to this one in my garden, such as Solitaire, Gold Medal or Sunstruck, have far more vigor with similar health.
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The polyantha Sunshine, listed as the parent for this rose and a few other roses, is incorrect. According to the patent, Sunshine is a hybrid tea. Only 3 images of the patent can be seen with a plugin of some sort. The patent for PP3791 says that it was bred by William A. Warriner for Jackson and Perkins in 1974. It is a hybrid of Golden Sun (unpatented) x South Seas (PP2184). It was bred for the greenhouse and garden alike, it states. it is described as buttercup yellow that opens up into being lemon yellow. Growth is listed as vigorous upright and branching. It states that the foliage was semi-glossy, and that has a decent resistance to powdery mildew. Also, it states little to no fragrance.
From the lineage and overall description, it sounds like a taller HT like a lot that descend from both parents.
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Hi. Thanks for the correction. The hybrid tea SUNSHINE, Plant Patent 3791, isn't found in Modern Roses. We'll have to add it to HMF.
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That would be awesome. It seems to be an important parent of some modern roses, and it will lighten the confusion between the bajillion roses named Sunshine. I can see why the name was overused, though, lol. :)
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I believe that the parent is 'Bonfire' aka 'Bonfire Night' from McGrdy in 1971. The current shown parent known as Bonfire is a red rambler from the early 1900s, which would not likely produce an end product such as 'Painted Moon'. Also, the breeder has used the 'Bonfire' I suggested in other crosses of theirs. For example, Tequila Sunrise.
So, while I do not have empirical evidence that I am correct, I do think that my suggestion is more probable than the currently stated suggested parent.
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There is also written evidence to support this change, if you take a look at the REFERENCES.
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haha, I'm blind! It was right in front of my face. Thanks for the change :)
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