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AquaEyes 
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All of the references you mentioned merely repeated the error that went on for decades. Remember, Peter Beales also insisted that his ''Irene Watts' was definitely not 'Pink Gruss an Aachen', and actually listed both at his nursery. If you ordered one of each, you'd get two of the same plant.
And all of those references were written before the true 'Bloomfield Abundance' was rediscovered. Of course the true one looks like a pink Hybrid Tea -- the true one is akin to 'Belinda's Dream' in being a cross between a Wichurana and a Hybrid Tea. And genetic testing confirmed that the imposter is virtually identical to 'Mlle Cecile Brunner'.
I realize these photos were posted a few years ago, but I felt the need to make a point for clarity.
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It's hard to think that all the photos on this file are of the same rose. Even if photographed with a phone...
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#1 of 4 posted
15 APR by
Johno
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Anything within the mauve - pink range with a white centre is probably accurate. Bloom age, climate and soil would impact. The range of colour was noted on the climbing sport.
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#2 of 4 posted
10 days ago by
AquaEyes
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Some nurseries -- in the US, at least -- sell what's actually 'Raymond Privat' under the name 'Baby Faurax'.
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Thank you.
No way of judging the size from the photos, in most cases.
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#4 of 4 posted
10 days ago by
AquaEyes
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There's more than the size difference. I grew both. 'Baby Faurax' was rather stiff and stumpy and upright. 'Raymond Privat' was more arching and "graceful", if you could imagine that on a small rose.
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This reminds me of what one could get from raising seed from "Rosa polyantha nana" aka "Rosa chinensis 'Angel Wings'". 'Blue Mist' came from that seed strain as well.
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I wonder if anyone growing this could compare it to 'Belle Amour'. It's hard to find photos of "Fairmount Semi-Double" anywhere beyond the High Country Roses website.
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The HCR pictures sure look like Belle Amour. I might have to buy one this year.
I also strongly suspect that their "High Country Banshee" is identical to another Colorado found rose "Graveyard Alba", which seems to have disappeared from sight and never was in commerce. I think it has pretty well been determined that HCR's "Jeremiah Pink" is Banshee. Beautiful and huuge bush, wonderful display if you have room for it.
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