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Robert Neil Rippetoe 
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31 MAR
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31 MAR by
jedmar
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In this case, the description in the reference states "few prickles". Thornless is never a default setting.
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Few compared to what?
Again, few prickles is not same as, "thornless: , which is a misnomer in of itself, since roses don't have thorns at all.
We need an option for smooth, or free of prickles, because as it is, the option is nearly worthless, IMO.
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Been there, done that. Refer Carolyn Knight Members Comments.
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Excellence is in the details, and the details here are insufficient and will be so until resolved.
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Adding additional descriptive options is certainly possible - one must merely make a request and present an appropriate case/need.
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1 APR by
jedmar
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First step could be to rename "thornless (or almost)" to "Few or no prickles". I am not sure if there is sufficient information on which roses have absolutely no prickles.
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I've created a number that have no prickles and even a smooth rachis.
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I've set it before and I'll say it again, a default setting of "thornless", is virtually useless and does a great disservice to those offering, breeding truly smooth roses.
There is no way this rose could be prickle free or even close to it given this parentage.
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This variety has been very resistant to black spot here in my GA garden. I also find its foliage more attractive than Sunny Knock Out's.
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Good to know. Thank you!
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The foliage looks to be very healthy. For yellow roses, I always look at fading. Does Grace fade to soft yellow or white?
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Here in Georgia Sunny Knock Out begs to be deadheaded because the faded blooms look horrible. In contrast, Grace N Grit Yellow's blooms are less objectionable.
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I'm wondering if 'White Tausendschön' might be the original name for, Barfield White Climber?
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