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Robert Neil Rippetoe
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Initial post 5 days ago by My Coyne
Hello,

I would like to get Francis Dubreuil from Heirloom own root. Heirloom list the plant is about 3 feet tall; however, HelpmeFind lists the plant height is 8 - 9 feet tall. This is a very big difference. If any one has this plant, please tell me how tall this plant can get at mature? Thank you.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 5 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
You need to look at 'Francis Dubreuil', in commerce as.

It is not a large grower. I grew it years ago, own-root it might go 2-3' tall once established.

It gets a bit larger when budded but no larger than most smaller HT's.

Look at the size listed by Heirloom.

Some believe this is actually the old HT, 'Barcelona'.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 4 days ago by My Coyne
Thank you. Heirloom lists the height is about 3-4 ft. I am happy with small size. Thanks.
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Initial post 22 APR by Robert Neil Rippetoe
This one has achieved height of over 7' in one season when budded to a vigorous rootstock in my low desert garden.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 8 days ago by Kathy Strong
Yes, mine too. Seven foot canes. On multiflora here.
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Initial post 11 days ago by Michael Garhart
That looks like the ones I saw at Washington Park before they hit commerce! I grew out the other one. Easy do-er, but I wasn't into it at all.

I do believe their are two, and my mind has not been lying to me.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 10 days ago by Kathy Strong
Well, I ordered the Lemon Fizz Kolorscape from Palatine this past year, and then gave it to a friend who killed it. But when it came, it was the largest bareroot of a large order from them, and I can say I was very impressed with the plant. Had canes that were easily 3/4 inch and very long sturdy roots, and looked nothing at all like what I would expect a "landscape" rose to look like (low growing and twiggy). More like what I would expect to see with a vigorous climber in bareroot size, although I never saw it grown out. I will order it again next year.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 10 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
It looks like the one I had here from Chamblees as well.

I have a feeling once budded it would behave quite differently. Perhaps that's why the Palatine product looks so different?
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 9 days ago by Kathy Strong
Maybe, but also keep in mind that Kordes LOVES to reuse names if it comes up with something it considers an improvement on the original plant of same name. Ya gotta keep yer eyes wide open with Kordes roses.
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Initial post 13 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Margaret!

You're a Mother!

Be careful! The do tend to take over!

Nice work, Robert
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 13 days ago by Margaret Furness
Space is the problem... I thought it worth adding the photo to show that the Tipsy one is seed-fertile, because it doesn't have any recorded offspring.
I have a hip on Cl White Maman Cochet (pollinated with a foundling China, which was all I had in flower), which I go and look at every day to see if it will be ripe enough to plant out in mid-August. I haven't got to the stage of talking to it yet.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 12 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Space is often the problem. They become a bit like children that never leave home.

You'll have fun regardless.

I've found MOST roses are fertile if one takes the time to work with them. Some are relentlessly fertile. Others have to be coaxed.
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