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Robert Neil Rippetoe
most recent 7 days ago HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Rose Listing Omission

Easy Bee-zy™ Knock Out® Rose

https://www.starkbros.com/products/garden-plants/roses/easy-bee-zy-knock-out-rose
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 7 days ago by jedmar
This is listed
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 7 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Oops!

Should have checked the partial name.... Thanks
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most recent 12 days ago HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 12 days ago by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Great to put a face to a name. We corresponded for a bit via Alex Sutton.

I never knew when she passed.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 12 days ago by HMF Admin
Yes, her HMF synonym for a while.
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most recent 14 FEB SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 7 FEB by Margaret Furness
Robert, do you think your parent plant was Clementina Carbonieri or Souv de Gilbert Nabonnand? You're the only one recorded to have extracted a seedling from it (whichever).
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Reply #1 of 12 posted 8 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I believe I got this one from Tom Liggett many years ago and have always assumed it was correct as he undoubtedly got his propagation material from San Jose Heritage.

I do not profess to be an expert on this cultivar. Whatever it is, I have used it as seed parent more than once.
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Reply #2 of 12 posted 8 FEB by billy teabag
In The Roses of the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden Catalog, Tenth Anniversary Edition, April 2005, there are listings for Souvenir de Gilbert Nabonnand and Clementina Carbonieri (in trade as) [= Souvenir de Gilbert Nabonnand].
The provenance of Souvenir de Gilbert Nabonnand is recorded as Goteborg Rosarium, Gothemburg, Sweden.
The provenance of Clementina Carbonieri (in trade as) [= Souvenir de Gilbert Nabonnand] is Kathleen Jagger, Orinda, CA.

We visited The San Jose Heritage Rose Garden in 2005 and my notes from that visit say "These two roses appear to be identical. Cannot find any point of difference."
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Reply #3 of 12 posted 8 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I can't say I'm surprised. I apparently have the clone from Orinda if this is the case.

Where does this put us in terms of identification?

Has anyone asked Jill, or maybe Gregg Lowery?
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Reply #4 of 12 posted 8 FEB by Margaret Furness
Thanks for a prompt reply Robert. Next question: does your plant (of the parent) have prickles?
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Reply #5 of 12 posted 8 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Very much so
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Reply #6 of 12 posted 9 FEB by Margaret Furness
We're trying to identify a recently-spotted found rose in this colour range (Souv de Gilbert Nabonnand, Clementina Carbonieri, Isabelle Nabonnand). Looks like it will be hard to find a gold standard to compare it with.
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Reply #7 of 12 posted 9 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I would guess they have been confused too long to make a determination.

I wonder if some of the older references might give enough information to help sort things out
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Reply #8 of 12 posted 14 FEB by Margaret Furness
Turns out our "new foundling" was a fairly recent seedling of Mons.Tillier, planted in an old cemetery a few years ago by a Heritage Roses member. Traps for the unwary.
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Reply #9 of 12 posted 14 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Yes, whichever it's moniker, seed fertile,
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Reply #10 of 12 posted 14 FEB by Patricia Routley
Margaret, has it been confirmed that the recent seedling of Mons. Tillier and the “new foundling” were on or nearby the same grave site? Or did they come from different locations?
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Reply #11 of 12 posted 14 FEB by Margaret Furness
Rob, who collected the rose, saw the email from Geoff, who planted it, about its general location. I have asked both about a grave name.
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Reply #12 of 12 posted 14 FEB by Patricia Routley
Thank you Margaret.
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most recent 10 FEB HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
One of my favorite OGR's!

Yes, she gets big!
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