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Robert Neil Rippetoe 
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The patent says, "Origin and Breeding Controlled pollination: ‘STEbigpu’ x ‘unnamed seedling’. " It is hard to read, but that is Stephen's Big Purple x Unknown. The code name suggests the seedling suggests it is their R. soul hybrid and something else, but it does not say it explicitly.
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Thanks Michael. Changed the seed parent from 'Rina Hugo' to 'Stephens Big Purple'.
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New pic up. Its pretty. Too bad not available here.
Missing lineage guess is (Sweet Chariot x Blue Nile) x Soulieana mix.
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Yes. Not a fact, just an educated guess.
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Just pondering how HMF could be more useful in analyzing an informed guess.
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I dunno. I just leave notes. Sometimes for my own memory. Sometimes for others. Sometimes it goes nowhere. But at least its documented, so I'm happy with that.
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Was 'My Hero' never released in North America? If not, I wonder why not. It seems to conform to the current fashion for many petaled roses in soft colors.
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Yeah, seemed like a missed opportunity.
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Best choice roses are not always selected for commercialization for a plethora of reasons that would leave most rosarians in a state of madness.
Some secrets should be kept for the mental health and well-being of society lol.
Often times, people only care if the juggernaut moves forward in time. Whatever and wherever that may be.
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#11 of 12 posted
3 days ago by
Nastarana
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Understood, but this rose is from an American breeder. One would hope, if not expect, that American gardeners would have a chance to buy it. Well. those of us who can afford the recently inflated prices.
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The best roses on a variety of levels are often buried for a variety of reasons.
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Just a couple of quick questions, What is meant when people say they bought a rose as a "band" and what exactly do people mean when they say they are "rustlers"?
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#1 of 7 posted
18 JAN 17 by
Jay-Jay
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They steal cattle! ;-{)
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In this case "rustled" roses are usually heritage or unidentified varieties propagated from abandoned homes, grave sites and the like.
rustled = collected
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A "band' is a deep square pot used for propagation, usually black in color. They are generally small and less expensive to ship than other sizes.
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Ah ha, that's cleared that up thank you. I've "rustled" roses from all sorts of places and once stole a sheep, so I've added rustler to my account.
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#5 of 7 posted
18 JAN 17 by
Jay-Jay
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I thought they meant Guns 'n Roses with the Band.
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#7 of 7 posted
5 days ago by
Looopy
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Does the term "band" come from "bandbox", do you suppose?
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Sorry to be a bother but this exact same picture also features in the photos for the 'Mischief' rose by Sam Mcgredy. Can I ask Mr. Rippetoe which is it please? - 'Compassion' or 'Mischief' ?
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I have deleted both photos.
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Dear Robert,
You have a photo 7604 on the 'Compassion' rose pages which is exactly the same picture to be found last on the 'Mischief' rose pages with a different number 7637 and shows a salmon/coral bud beginning to unfurl. I love the photo by the way but which rose is it - 'Mischief' or 'Compassion'?
Also, I would like to know if a bloom of 'Mischief' is very fragrant when placed in a vase of water - anyone?
Some roses are more fragrant in a vase and can fill a room with scent but still have just a basic rose scent when you put your nose in them to sniff whilst they are on the plant.
The HMF pages state elsewhere that 'Mischief' won the RNRS 'Clay Cup for Fragrance' in 1961 but a number of books including the RNRS Annuals don't mention this award for 'Mischief' at all and it is usually described as having a 'mild' scent with a score of 5/10.
Mischief looks a bit like a leggy old 5 foot hybrid tea with beautiful pink/orange-blended bloom which generated an amazing exotic scent of vanilla/lime/strawberries (when put in a vase) and used to grow on a friend's South-facing shed here in South East England. The blooms were no more than 4 inches diameter but were all beautifully formed with rolled back petals like 'Red Devil's or 'Wendy Cussons' and similar to Steve Rousell's 'Clovie' in colour but a neater, smaller more globular bloom than all three giving the illusion of being taller than its diameter.
They didn't fade in sun or get spotty in the rain.The supporting peduncles - occasionally in pairs or rarely threes were light green, very slim but strong enough and had small prickles.
I regret never digging up and saving the plant and taking cuttings when my neighbour moved house and he has since passed away. The closest rose I've found so far is 'Prima Ballerina' but she can have flatter blooms and wavy petals and doesn't have the orange tint. My mystery rose's blooms all looked uniform and spiralling and not filled, ruflled or cabbage-like as with many Hybrid Teas.
Jack Harkness wrote in his book 'Roses' that he would have given 'Prima Ballerina' a 10/10 for scent and 'Fragrant Cloud' a 9 so I thought I'd grow PB and find out but can anyone recommend 'Mischief' or someting else orange/pink for (in the vase) fragrance?
Chris
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I think that more likely 'Compassion' as I don't remember growing 'Mischief', but I probably did at some point.
Honestly it could have been either. Both photos are now deleted.
I don't want to mislead anyone.
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