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Robert Neil Rippetoe
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most recent 10 FEB HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 FEB by Darrell
According to the Pradel family genealogy and the father's birth certificate (which I received a copy of from Dominique Massad in France), the father of Giraud Pradel was NOT Henri but Etienne Pradel.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 9 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Way to go Darell!
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 9 FEB by jedmar
The habit of the French not to name the first names really complicates things. There seem to have been many Pradels in Montauban and probably at least two family lines in the nursery business. Geni states
Etienne Pradel (18th century)
Pierre Pradel (b. April 16, 1800), his son, nurseryman, married to Jeanne Marie Esther Pradel (née Douzalz) - rose 'Esther Pradel'?
David Edmond Pradel (b. November 21, 1836), their son, nurseryman - rose 'David Pradel'
married to Zelia Augustine Stéphanie Vidaillac (b. March 12, 1843) in 1860 - rose 'Zélia Pradel'

Around 1858, a Pradel aîné (elder brother) and Géraud Pradel jeune are mentioned as nurserymen. These could be two brothers. Was David the elder?

What are the names and dates on the info given by Massad?
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 9 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
My name too is French, originally, 'Ribouteau".

It was anglicized around 1700 and very difficult to live with since.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 10 FEB by Margaret Furness
Well, if rose names (and even breeder codes) can be changed, so can yours...
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 10 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I've thought about it.

It's expensive and complicated.

The current iteration is character building if nothing else.
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Initial post 7 DEC 16 by thebig-bear
Please can anyone tell me if this rose sets hips, and if so, what the resulting seedlings are like?
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 8 DEC 16 by Margaret Furness
Hmf lists these as descendants:
Madame Gustave Fargeton
Starlight (hybrid multiflora, Paul, 1909)
The Sweet Little Queen of Holland
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 8 DEC 16 by thebig-bear
Thanks Margaret. Shame none of them seem to be in commerce, as I would like to have seen the results of Celine Forestier's motherhood, so to speak.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 9 FEB by Emily W.
I have a rooted cutting on order from Rose Valley Roses.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 9 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I just purchased one recently from Burlington.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 8 DEC 16 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
"what the resulting seedlings are like?"

This depends on what you use it with.
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most recent 9 FEB HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
You are in inspiration Dianne!
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most recent 9 FEB HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I'm pleased to report that the specimens sent to Quarry Hill, (now Sonoma Botanical Garden), are still viable and one is being nursed and brought along by Don Gers.

This wonderful species is not done in N. America yet!
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