My favourite "pink". Wish that Austin roses would reintroduce this and Chianti. Even though they are spring flowering only they are well worth it. I had both Constance and Chianti side by side at my last house and they thrived on neglect and grew enormous. Everyone in our street commented on them in spring. And the fragrance as you walked down our driveway was a knock out.

My Salita has always been troublesome. Very stiff, inflexible canes...like, extremely. I wonder if mine wouldn't be better off grown as a large shrub. Has been very difficult to train. Only puts out one bloom, or if I am lucky two, each bloom cycle. I have had non-stop issues with black spot almost since the minute I first put her in the ground. She is planted in full sun on the south side of my house. Have tried everything...you name it and I have tried it, but nothing has fazed the black spot one bit. Thinking of maybe gifting it to my neighbor. Maybe she'll have better luck with it. For me, she is a lot more trouble than she is worth. I do have to say though, the blooms are an extremely bright combo of orange and red mixed together, and the form is very nice, but the black spot is out-of-control and creates an eyesore, distracting from the one or two blooms at a time that she does have. Zone 6a.

Modern Roses 12 says "Pulmonaire - See La Maculee, HGal"; what is the difference between the two; are they closely related or as MR12 implies they are one and the same?