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Pamela Temple
most recent 23 APR 20 SHOW ALL
Initial post 23 MAR 18 by scvirginia
Is this rose very fragrant? I wonder if it could be 'America', a once widely grown Noisette whose parents were 'Solfatare' and 'Safrano'.

Reply #1 of 1 posted 23 APR 20 by Pamela Temple
I don't know about the parentage but I do know that it is fragrant.
most recent 20 JUN 18 SHOW ALL
Initial post 21 JUN 16 by fencergal05
Would you please share a picture of your Danny Boy Sam McGredy climber?

Reply #1 of 5 posted 23 JUN 16 by Pamela Temple
Hi Nancy, It hasn't bloomed yet. It is a young plant that I received this spring. There's buds and I will post a photo to HMF when it blooms. I can tell you that it is vigorous and hasn't shown any disease.
Reply #2 of 5 posted 24 JUN 16 by fencergal05
Hi Pam,
Thanks for writing back. Where did you buy this, please? I will wait to see your pictures - hopefully you can show the bud, blossom and fade stages. Wishing you masses of blooms and lots of eye-candy in your lovely garden.
Reply #3 of 5 posted 25 JUN 16 by Pamela Temple
Hi Nancy,

I bought it from Rogue Valley roses in Oregon. It does look like a nice rose!
Reply #4 of 5 posted 4 JUL 16 by Pamela Temple
Hi Nancy, Danny Boy bloomed and I took photos. At first I hesitated to upload them. I will this morning. After reading the description in The Vintage Gardens Book of Roses I thought what I had must be mis-labeled. After looking at the photos on HMF I do see something closer to what I have. The buds were darker than the blooms. I think perhaps they fade quickly into an orange-pink. It's a young plant too, flowering on a hot day. I guess we'll keep an eye on it as it matures.
Reply #5 of 5 posted 20 JUN 18 by fencergal05
Hi Pamela,
Thanks so much for following through and posting the pictures - your Danny Boy truly looks wonderful. I am sorry for such a late response - I got sick right after our series of messages and spent the summer going through multiple rounds of strep. My husband's layoff the next summer put me solely in charge of providing for the family and I could not keep up with HMF.
I read about your life in your description and it is wonderful how therapeutic you have found roses to be, just as I find mine. Like you, I am expecting a move as well and don't want to leave my plants behind. I feel pressured to order Danny Boy anyway (available after a long break at Rogue Valley - and will buy now since you confirm it is the right plant, though the San Jose Heritage Gardens' pic looked like orange red, and this blooms pink) and also because it is not so easily available.
Right now, I am trying to recover from my stupid boo-boo of overpruning - pruned Floribundas and Grandiflora (1) as hard as the old garden roses, and no roses this summer for me. The only one who came through okay was Souvenir de la Malmaison. Sharifa, Camelot and Iceberg (Iceberg, imagine that? Takes special skills to bomb at growing Iceberg). New to me last Fall - mini bands of Tropical Sun, Walking on Sunshine, Miss Behavin' and Black Cherry that will most likely not make it ( I have no idea why Jackson & Perkins would ship like that to 6b - it was a gift from family and they did not know this won't work). The last straggler from the gift, Honey Perfume, came in a few weeks ago and is nice and healthy. Right along with a very healthy Zephirine Drouhin.
With a 1000 roses, you probably have all of these varieties but let me know if you need anything and I can try to make a cutting and root it.
Have a great day, Pamela. And thanks again for the follow-through!

most recent 31 MAY 18 SHOW ALL
Initial post 19 FEB 14 by Pamela Temple
Gregg Lowery thinks this might possibly be Souvinier du Dr. Jamain.
Reply #1 of 5 posted 30 DEC 15 by AquaEyes
I obtained my 'Souvenir du Dr. Jamain' from Vintage Gardens, and my plant is definitely NOT "Pulich Children". What I have is mostly thornless, throws long, climber-like canes with short laterals, and the blooms have far fewer petals. I do, however, have something else which strongly resembles pictures I see of "Pulich Children", and that's 'Monsieur Boncenne'. Another possibility could be 'Baron de Bonstetten'. According to lineage information on here for both, they're siblings. And Vintage Gardens maintained that they're mixed up in commerce, but claimed to have obtained correct examples of both before they closed. I'd be tempted to try "Pulich Children" just to compare, but as it is, 'Monsieur Boncenne' really struggles against blackspot here. And I'm thinking the same would happen with "Pulich Children".


Reply #2 of 5 posted 5 JUN 16 by Linda T.

How large does Pulich Children get? I've just ordered it, but need to know how much space to give it.


Reply #3 of 5 posted 30 MAY 18 by mmanners
Christopher just realizing you wrote in 2015 -- I heard for the first time, today, that Jill Perry (San Jose Heritage Rose Garden) grows Mons. Boncenne and finds it the same as Pulich Children. I'm wondering where/how US growers got Mons. Boncenne, and our current confidence that it's the real thing.
Reply #4 of 5 posted 31 MAY 18 by AquaEyes
Malcolm, I'd forgotten that I wrote this comment, so thank you for bringing it up again. As I stated above, my 'Monsieur Boncenne' came from Vintage Gardens, in 2013. They also carried 'Baron de Bonstetten', and if I remember the catalog correctly, there was some remark about having finally gotten the "real" BdB, being as most offered were really MB, since they were so similar. I don't know anything else about what tells the two apart, but perhaps Gregg Lowery will remember.

Reply #5 of 5 posted 31 MAY 18 by mmanners
Thanks. I don't know how I've missed, until today, that anyone was suggesting an identity for Pulich Children. The photos of Mons. Boncenne certainly do look like it.

Oh and Linda T. -- apparently no one answered you in nearly two years! For us, Pulich Children goes perhaps 4 ft. wide, by perhaps 6 or 7 feet tall, if unpruned. We do prune ours fairly hard in the spring, then less severely whenever it needs it, so an unpruned plant might get quite a lot bigger than ours. We grow it on 'Fortuniana' roots, which tends to make a bigger plant than own-root would, in our climate and soil conditions.
most recent 25 MAY 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 25 MAY 17 by John P
Hi There,

My name is John, I'm searching for a Cleopatra Rose. It's reddish pink in color with white accents. I've called around 50 growers and had to luck finding one.

We lost our cat, Fuzz Face, whom we often called Fuzzopatra. We're hoping to bury her ashes with a Cleopatra rose as a tribute.

Do any of you have a Cleopatra rose in your garden? If not, do you know anyone who might?

I thank you for any of your time and efforts with this. Have a great day!
Reply #1 of 1 posted 25 MAY 17 by Pamela Temple
Hi John,

I did see that Heirloom Roses in Oregon and Hortico of Canada may have it. They are selling Cleopatra under a different name, Peace of Vereeniging. Seems odd! If you found it though you could re label it Cleopatra.
Good Luck,
PS I understand about kitties . I have two roses that I raised myself, Madame Zazu and Jenny that I named for my kitties.
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