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Southern California near coast
Rosenprinzessin possesses immunity to all disease both bacterial and fungal in my garden. I do not spray but use a soil systemic 1-3 times a year. It is now mid November and she is blooming again without additional fertilizer since mid spring. The only other disease free rose in my garden is the white form of Mlle. Cecile Brunner although Cornelia and a more modern hybrid musk that I have are very tough. Due to the costal influence my roses are exposed to black spot, rust and mildew when the conditions are right. She tolerates alkaline clay soil and alkaline water with a high concentration of minerals that are not rose friendly. Rosenprinzessin is shade tolerant and is doing well with about 1/2 day of sun. The deep pink color makes a nice accent in a garden with an English color scheme of paler hues. Growing about two feet tall in my frost free climate this rose would be ideal en masse in the forefront of a larger garden or as a patio type rose where space is restricted. I purchased this rose 2011-2012 from Vintage Gardens when they were selling EuroDesert Rose stock. It is unfortunate that Rosenprinzessin doesn’t seem to be commercially available as it would be an ideal addition to many gardens.
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I have had this plant in my Southern California garden for several years. It is lovely in full spring bloom. It is growing in a somewhat shaded location in clay soil near the coast. Under my garden conditions this rose has been bullet-proof for me. It has never been sprayed and the foliage is always healthy. It is neither short or compact in my garden but I have pruned it into obedience. It behaves like a Hybrid Musk for me throwing out long flexible canes which I have to prune hard to fit into the available space. Just this week, I noticed small amounts of wilted and burnt looking foliage on several canes which I removed completely. It looked like the beginning of fire blight. I have never had fire blight on my roses but have seen it on pyracantha. I hope that this will be the end. I'm just not certain what is causing the damage to the canes and foliage right now.
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Just out of curiosity and my reluctance to discard a rose bush I continued to grow the mislabeled rose from Eurodesert. While I am not expert in these matters, as far as I can tell; this rose is consistent with Rosa canina. Perhaps it was grown for grafting stock.
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This plant has been a surprise for me. Purchased as a band this spring and now outgrowing a 4 gallon pot. Expected a more typical polyantha type but it appears to be growing more like a rambler. After some early spindly growth "Paul" has been growing long (now six feet and still growing) pale green shoots that have a fairly lax habit. There have been no blooms yet but the earlier growth has formed laterals. At first I thought that I might have been sent the wrong plant, but with a cross between Dorothy Perkins and Yvonne Rabier this may be the result. I will know more when I finally see some blooms. The HMF description did say upright and vigorous. If anyone has experience with this plant I would appreciate more information.
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27 NOV 11 by
Tessie
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I don't have Paul Delepine myself, but I saw several mature plants of it growing at Eurodesert Roses in Morongo Valley, CA this year in spring and summer. I'd estimate they were probably 2 feet tall, maybe 2 1/2 feet tall. Small mounds. Covered itself in blooms. I've got photos of it, which I'll look for to post here so you can compare. Not likely the best shots, but I took them for my own education and didn't spend much time composing. I really liked Paul Delepine, but it was definitely very polyantha in behavior and in the diminutive camp. I didn't see any tendency to climb or throw octopus canes.
Do you have any pictures of your plant? It does sound more like a rambler or even a climbing polyantha. Perhaps Excellenz von Schubert?
Melissa
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Thank you for the information. I'm sure now that this is not "Paul". Since it is sort of a "mystery plant" I will watch it until it blooms or until it get's in my way. I really didn't have room for another large plant since I got carried away buying hybrid musks and also received St.Elizabeth of Hungary as a free plant.
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Might this have come from EuroDesert? I picked up a Paul Delapine from him which turned out to be some climber with odd colored foliage, too. After it hit seven or so feet, I tossed it as it is NOT the polyantha. A friend grows Paul just a few miles from me and he verified the plant was definitely wrong. What it was, who knows? It wasn't what I had sought, so it went out. Paul has a very good reputation for good disease resistance in Southern California, which is why I sought it.
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Yes, this did come from Eurodesert. It must be a twin to the one you received. I strongly suspected this was not Paul Delepine but I couldn't find much information about it's size. It's still with me as a curiosity. I wanted to see a bloom before I decided what to do with it. It seems to be very disease resistant, almost thornless; with slender grayish green leaves.
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I also found the foliage color attractive, but once I verified it wasn't what I sought for breeding and the plant obviously wished to devour the yard, it went away. It will be interesting discovering what it actually is. Please be sure to let us know. Thank you.
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