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most recent 28 JUL SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 25 AUG 07 by george graham
The Rose Captain Phillip Green sold by Guillot in France is Bon silene
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Reply #1 of 11 posted 25 AUG 07 by HMF Admin
We have 'Bon Silene' listed as a different rose. Can you provide a reference indicating these rose are the same ?
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Reply #2 of 11 posted 28 AUG 07 by jedmar
It should not be the same rose; George Graham means that the rose Guillot is selling, is actually 'Bon Silène' not 'Captain Philip Green'. There are unfortunately many such impostors in commerce.
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Reply #3 of 11 posted 28 AUG 07 by HMF Admin
Thank you for the clarification.
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Reply #4 of 11 posted 1 JUL 08 by Eric Timewell
Two of your photos of Bon Silène and two of Captain Philip Green seem to be of an identical plant. All four photos have been contributed by Ami Roses.
It seems to me unclear that any of your photos of Captain Philip Green is correct. Paul Nabonnand, quoted on the www.rosarosam.com site, lists it as cream, as do you. Yet all your photos are of a very pink rose. Another site has "long bud opening to cream with carmine," which does not accurately describe any of your photos.
You quote a source of 1910 saying Captain Philip Green is "cream colour, in the way of Marie van Houtte". Since Marie van Houtte was the seed parent of Captain Philip Green, the similarity may be more genetic than casual. Your own photo ID 42196 of Marie van Houtte shows the exact effect: overall cream-straw colour with darker-than-pink staining of the outer petals.
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Reply #5 of 11 posted 4 FEB 12 by Darrell
I currently have a young Capt. Philip Green from Vintage Gardens--still in a container. How tall and wide does this rose grow in the ground? (I live about 30 miles northeast of San Francisco, very Mediterranean climate.)
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Reply #6 of 11 posted 13 DEC 14 by AmiRoses
No, all four photos are not the same plant.
Bon Silène is more carmine pink and often shows a white stripe.
Captain Ph. Green is more of a cream base and never has this white stripe.
The Buds are really cream with touches of carmine.
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Reply #7 of 11 posted 13 DEC 14 by Patricia Routley
The photos from Laikanl and Mulino san Genesio both show white stripes and therefore are likely to be 'Bon Silene'. If it is OK with them, I'll move the photos shortly.
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Reply #8 of 11 posted 27 JUL by scvirginia
I'm late to this party, but none of these photos fits the description of a cream or light yellow rose with a light yellow, carmine-shaded bud. I agree that they do look like 'Bon Silène'.

Virginia
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Reply #9 of 11 posted 28 JUL by Patricia Routley
I guess five years is more than adequate time for Laikanl and Mulino san Genesio to reply. I have reassigned their photos at least, to Bon Silene.
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Reply #10 of 11 posted 28 JUL by jedmar
The rose in L'Hay is also incorrectly labeled, but it is not pink enough to be 'Bon Silène'
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Reply #11 of 11 posted 28 JUL by scvirginia
I agree that those photos doesn't look like 'Bon Silène'. It looks more like a Pernetiana to me. Would it be a good idea to have a separate record for "Captain Philip Green- in commerce"?

Virginia
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most recent 11 JUN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 JUN by kai-eric
Is this the prickly one which I saw at l'hay in 2010?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 11 JUN by AmiRoses
Yes and I was wondering if that could be Mme Eugène Verdier as it was at l'Haÿ too.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 11 JUN by kai-eric
Seems that loubert got their budwood from l'hay as they are selling a prickly madame bérard that ressembles a lot to your pictures.
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most recent 11 JUN SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 6 JUN by kai-eric
wonderful!!!
does she have prickles?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 6 JUN by AmiRoses
No
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 11 JUN by kai-eric
Thankyou! Do you know the origin oft this plant, or could you try to find out?
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most recent 30 MAY HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 MAY by Yvan Capouet
Bonjour,

Je me demande si vous avez pris cette photo à Chaumont-Gistoux en belgique oùsurvit la roseraie créée par Ivan Louette?

Yvan Capouet
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 30 MAY by AmiRoses
Oui, c'est bien là
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 30 MAY by Yvan Capouet
Merci beaucoup. Nous avons perdu la traçabilité des roses de la roseraie et votre témoignage nous aide. Il me semble reconnaître l'endroit, le pommier derrière le chalet. Nous savons donc maintenant avec plus de certitude qu'il s'agit d'un Fontaine des Loups.
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