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Initial post 25 FEB 16 by alex.m.
I really would like to know what the name mean? Does anyone know something about that?
Reply #1 of 1 posted 10 NOV by Carlos D Neves
Hi, this comes 4 years late, but if you happen to see it, it probably means 'orange basket'
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Initial post 29 SEP 16 by NikosR
I believe the bush form of Paul Lede is extinct (or at least not available in commerce as such) and most probably all photos displayed under this entry should be under cl. Paul Lede. I know for a fact that Oldrosarian's photo of Paul Lede is of the climbing form (from discussions in Gardenweb) and this form has been reintroduced in commerce recently as Mons. Paul Lede by Palantine in Canada from budwood supplied by her. In Europe cl. Paul Lede has been available for long also as Paul Lede.
Reply #1 of 10 posted 3 OCT 16 by Patricia Routley
Interesting. It is fairly easy to prove that a rose is a climber. But a little harder to prove that the little squirt is the original bush for it could be the climber growing in unsuitable conditions. Perhaps comments from others -and the HMF photographers on the height of their bushes might help. I'll send the photographers a private message - there is only four.

To add a little weight to your theory, I note that the same photo has been used for both the climber and bush on the ARS MR site.
Reply #2 of 10 posted 3 OCT 16 by NikosR
Please check out this thread where Old Rosarian (Lynette) discusses her rose.
There's no bush form of Paul Lede under that name in commerce in Europe nor in Australia afaik and I don't believe there's in N. America either. Confusion might stem from this fact since nurseries do not find it necessary to differentiate.
Reply #3 of 10 posted 3 OCT 16 by NikosR
Also please check out this older thread where morrisnoor (Maurizio Usai), a world renown and respected landscape architect and rosarian from Sardinia, Italy mentions that he believes the bush form is extinct.
Reply #4 of 10 posted 3 OCT 16 by Patricia Routley
NikosR, I am sure you are right. I've been gleaning from the books and will add references.
Later edit. Because of your comments, NikosR; the square brackets in the 2001 reference; and the 1965 reference, I have marked this 1902 hybrid tea "believed extinct or lost". I have also moved all photos into the climber file. Anyone who disagrees is most welcome to move them back as that would signify this original bush form might not be extinct.
Reply #5 of 10 posted 7 OCT 16 by Hartwood
Paul Lede was definitely a climber in my garden. I got it from Roses Unlimited in 2007. After putting on size and having a few wonderful years of bloom, it was damaged by severe winter cold three years ago and it never recovered. RIP.
Reply #6 of 10 posted 7 OCT 16 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Hartwood. That justifies moving your photo out of the bush and into the climber.
Reply #7 of 10 posted 12 OCT 16 by Patricia Routley
I have received the following private message from member Alex.m in Austria:

Mine is the original bushform-the height is 70-90cm.
I got it from Eva Kotzmuth the former owner of Giovannis Garden and she maybe got it from Sangerhausen or Martin Weingart.
Giovannis Garden had a huge varitey of very rare roses ( I'm very happy to get many from them)- unfortunatly it dosent exist anymore.
......I know its the last :-( Eva Kotzmuth gave it to me because she know that I will take good care of it. Unfortunatly its a very delicate plant - it dosen´t bloom this year and is a very slow grower. I will talk to a friend of mine who is the owner of a rose nursery in the near (Baumschule Ecker) maybe he will propagate i
Reply #8 of 10 posted 13 OCT 16 by NikosR
That's very interesting! It would be good to know if Alex.m's delicate bush is budded or bare root. Maybe it would benefit from a climate milder than Austria's.
Reply #9 of 10 posted 18 NOV 16 by alex.m.
Usually even delicate chinas like the climate in my garden, but this fellow has special needs and is very easily offended ;-) .
Next season I will try to propagate it with cuttings.
Reply #10 of 10 posted 10 JUN 19 by Thornbush
I have a found rose in California zone 9b that may be Paul Lédé, The undersides of the petals are pink. It opens with a cream top side, apricot at the base of the petals. The stamens are maroon. My rooted cutting makes almost continuous huge, and hugely scented blossoms with maroon stamens. Does this sound like Paul? Or climbing Paul?
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 25 FEB 16 by alex.m.
Do you know what "Ping Dong" mean?
Reply #2 of 1 posted 2 APR 19 by Rupert, Kim L.
Entering "Ping Dong" into Google Translate provides Pingtung, a county in Taiwan. Therefore a loose translation of the name should be "The monthly flowering rose of Pingtung, Taiwan".
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Initial post 25 FEB 16 by alex.m.
Does anyone know what the name mean?
Reply #1 of 3 posted 29 FEB 16 by John Hook
"Dancing lavender swallow wings or something like that I think?
Reply #2 of 3 posted 1 MAR 16 by alex.m.
Thank you very much :-)!
Reply #3 of 3 posted 17 FEB 19 by Mandy Luu
The purple swallow dancing.
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