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most recent 20 APR HIDE POSTS
Initial post 19 APR by Sambolingo
Rose Listing Omission

R. rugosa variegata

I saw a variegated form of R. rugosa in Trevor Griffith's Book of Classic Old Roses (1986); I don't know if this might already be listed on HMF under a different name-- I thought I might check into it. I took a photo from the book that I could post. It is a typical-looking single rugosa but with some leaf variegation.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 20 APR by Patricia Routley
I don’t think we did have it listed Sambolingo. So I have added it as ‘Variegata (rugosa, unknown, before 1986)’. Beyond looking in Trevor’s books, I haven’t searched for other references. (I’d spend half the day ploughing through all the other Variegatas). I can’t help thinking this might have been a R. Rugosa typica / Scabrosa type of rose with some sort of mineral deficiency like Magnesium.
most recent 9 JUN 18 SHOW ALL
Initial post 5 JUN 18 by Sambolingo
Sheffield’s Seed Company sells seeds of “Schmid’s Ideal,” with the description “This selection has been popular in Europe for many years as a rootstock for budding rose varieties.” Could Schmid’s Ideal be the same as Schmid’s Unterlage?

Link to the webpage:,-Brier-Rose,-Dog-Brier/Dog-Rose,-Brier-Rose,-Dog-Brier
Reply #1 of 1 posted 9 JUN 18 by Patricia Routley
I have added a few references to both 'Schmidt's Ideal' and 'Schmidt's Unterlage'.
It seems Schmidt's Unterlage might have been also called 'Schmidt's Special'.
Some references refer to both Schmidt's Ideal and to Schmidt's Special, so it appears they were two different rootstocks.
most recent 1 MAY 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 1 MAY 18 by Michael Garhart
Definitely the real glutinosa! Glad others are posting photos of it, as it seems confused with other species roses. Its a cool rose. Not terribly big, and has a lot of neat properties.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 1 MAY 18 by Sambolingo
It seems like it would appeal more to people than the rubiginosa bunch would since glutinosa's more compact. I'm glad that a nursery is selling it.
most recent 16 FEB 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 16 FEB 18 by Sambolingo
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