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most recent 28 DEC 19 SHOW ALL
Initial post 31 MAY 16 by Lynn-in-TX

How thorny is Colette? Is anyone successfully growing it as a shrub versus climber?
Reply #1 of 2 posted 31 MAY 16 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I've tried that. It was too prickly for me but then you may have more space than I do.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 28 DEC 19 by JuniperAnn
I bought Colette on sale 2-3 years ago & haven’t pruned or trained her since—just grew her in a pot for 1-2 years with purchased potting soil, and then in my neutral-pH clay soil. For me (Z9a, humid subtropics), she grows like a sprawled out starfish, about 2’H & 6’W, with little branching. Also, she only grows flowers on the tips of her canes. I thought about pegging her, but too thorny. So I’m going to hard prune her this spring, and if she doesn’t like that, then it’s the shovel for her. Sorry, Colette.
most recent 11 JUL 19 SHOW ALL
Initial post 20 FEB 18 by Mich, Fremont, CA
Available from - Heirloom Roses
Reply #1 of 2 posted 22 FEB 18 by Lavenderlace
Heirloom's site calls this exceptionally fragrant while the HMF lists it as moderate. Does anybody know which one is accurate and also the size of the blooms? Thanks!
Reply #2 of 2 posted 11 JUL 19 by Lynn-in-TX
I would call it moderately fragrant.
most recent 21 APR 19 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 20 APR 19 by Lynn-in-TX
Can anyone provide information regarding Mlle. de Sombreuil's disease resistance?

Reply #1 of 3 posted 20 APR 19 by Margaret Furness
I grow "Carlesruhe cemetery Maria Bruhn", which is said to match roses grown as Mlle de Sombreuil. It's healthy in my no-spray garden, zone 9b, Mediterranean-type climate.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 20 APR 19 by Lynn-in-TX
Thank you for responding. I am also wondering how well Mlle. de Sombreuil performs in humid Southern climates?
Reply #3 of 3 posted 21 APR 19 by Rupert, Kim L.
Better than average mildew resistance unless extremely water stressed. Very good rust resistance with some black spot showing up late in the season on old foliage. That is in Zone 9b, Central California Coast, nine miles from the Pacific Ocean with extreme marine influence.
most recent 18 SEP 18 SHOW ALL
Initial post 3 SEP 18 by Lynn-in-TX
Can this rose be grown as a free-standing shrub?
Reply #1 of 1 posted 18 SEP 18 by Deborah Petersen
No way to know for sure, having not tried it myself or heard of anyone who has, but I think it wouldn't be too easy to deal with, growing that way. A mature plant throws out long, relatively lax canes (10'+), which readily take advantage of any upward support they find (I have to spend time keeping it out of surrounding small trees and keeping it on its own support), while the main trunk is still not that substantial, even after some years (unlike Mme. Alfred Carriere, which has hefty main trunks and can be trained to be freestanding). It would be a sprawling, very thorny thing with massive amounts of biomass, I think (maybe cascading down a hill would work?). Its response to pruning is vigorous production of more long canes so I tend to cut a cane off entirely if I want to stop it from going some direction.
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