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Spotto 
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3 days ago by
Spotto
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This nursery is supplying 'Smooth Ruby Red' but it is not present on the company's website nor does it appear to have been registered with this name (and no breeder's code name is on the label). For the sake of posterity, it is described as, "A beautiful thornless rose with dark velvety red petals and sweet fragrance.This plant grows to 1.3m and has healthy shiny, dark green leaves with attractive bronze green new growth".
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4 days ago by
Spotto
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This rose is on sale in Australia and the USA as Scentifall(R) 'Lemon Frosting'.
I believe that Scentifall relates to the range of roses and 'Lemon Frosting' is the marketing name of this cultivar.
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#1 of 2 posted
4 days ago by
Plazbo
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in the USA (and NZ) I think it's just Scentifall(R) 'Lemon'
www.planthaven.com/plant/rosa-scentifall-lemon/
I think it's just AUS that has added on frosting for whatever marketing reason.
Was looking at this (and scentifall blush) earlier in the year, trying to find more info, kind of interesting how yellow it is given the parentage, no foetida blood known seems odd
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3 days ago by
Spotto
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Thank you for your response. You are correct and not having "Frosting" to the name in the USA is a fact, though surprising to me because "frosting" is an Americanism for "icing". As for the yellow colour and scent it must have yellow from one or both of the wichuraiana seedling that fathered 'Immensee' or the pollen parent of 'Sweet Fairy' or both.
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Having looked carefully at this rose, I am of the opinion that 'Iceberg' is one parent, in common with some of the breeder's early introductions.
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This rose could reasonably be described as a Hybrid Musk, based on its disclosed parentage.
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More than even roses registered as HMusk lol, which are mostly HMultiflora and HPolyantha.
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