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“Vol. 22, pp. 448 - Notes on Rosa anemonaeflora Fort.” The pp. should be 45-48. And the year should also be included: 1883
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Said to have been named for someone whose friends called him the Robber Baron.
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Margaret, here’s a fanciful personification of ‘Raubritter’ from the pen of Miriam Wilkins published in her Old Rosers Digest, April 1983, p.6:
…”Raubritter [the rose], the Robber Barron who steals your heart away every May. Only fair that he gives it back every June after a long period of bloom for then he dies in the most unseemly manner, a mess. When you see him in top form in your garden or cascading down into a fountain at Mottisfont, England, you forgive him his faults, offer heart, purse, whatever’s necessary to have him in your rose plot.” -Rosewild
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I like it!
I looked now at its descendants - it's so popular as a once-flowerer (blame Mottisfont), you'd think repeat-flowering offspring should do well. But the two listed aren't in commerce as far as hmf knows.
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At ‘Fortune’s Double Yellow’ Paul Barden commented “FDY is largely infertile as a female parent…” so when we discovered a ripe hip on a FDY bush we seized it and passed it on to Kim Rupert who successfully sprouted the seed. The result was a pink, single-petalled climber with droopy foliage, unlike the glossy leaved double yellow blend of its parent, ‘Fortune’s Double Yellow’. We’ve given it the name “Kim’s Fortunate Surprise”.
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Rather than add a synonym of ‘Kim’s Fortunate Surprise’ to ‘FDY Seedling’, I think it may be better to just alter the name to ‘Kim’s Fortunate Surprise’.
I am also inclined to drop the pollen parent listed leaving just Seedling of Fortune’s Double Yellow. Please advise.
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28 APR 24 by
Rosewild
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Great! Kim deserves the credit. And I also agree, the pollen parent should be dropped.
Don
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Thank you Don. Done.
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Rosewild sent me three seeds from the FDY hip. Peter Harris in West Virginia excised the embryos from the seeds and raised the three seedlings, which he sent me. I raised them to large plants. One was semi double and bright pink. Its flowers were rather misshapen A second was single and pink like this one, but with smaller flowers. This is the third. I discarded the first two due to room and this being the more desirable seedling. It continued growing and getting rather large. It only made sense to pass it back to Rosewild who has the room to allow it to mature and live its best life!
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I've long read Banksiae seed can require two years to germinate. I've raised four seedlings from open pollinated Lutescens. Two have been fully double and one semi double with tulip shaped buds. The fourth succumbed to terminal mildew in infancy. This double yellow Banksiae is from OP Lutescens seed.
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April 29, 2024: Kim, your double yellow banksiae flowers from the hip of single yellow lutescens parallels the experience I had raising my first lutescens from seed. I read that Jesse Mould, who lived on the Banks Peninsula in New Zealand had the single yellow lutescens. I wrote to her and In 1991 she sent me 29 hips from which I recovered 67 seeds. Seventeen seedlings sprouted, with the first blooms appearing on two plants in 1995, both single white. In 1996 five more bloomed, three single white, one double white and one double yellow. In 1997 another single white and a double yellow. In 1998 the last eight seedlings bloomed and I finally got three single yellow lutescens with three double yellow, one double white and a final single white. So the final score was seven single white, two double white, five double yellow and the three single yellow lutescens which was just under 18% of total seeds sprouted. It took seven years from planting to finally get those three lutescens!
And in addition to all four flower types, there was variation in smooth or prickly canes, too. I did not positively confirm that all the hips came from Jesse’s lutescens plant but I can’t imagine she would mix in the other species or whether she even grew them since I specifically wrote about and asked for lutescens. I’ve read others had a similar experience with seed from a single source. Could it be that a single plant can produce all four species? And if so, then all these species must be botanically renamed as forma of the original species. But I guess that’s already accomplished by their double names.
I will post some photos in the photos file.
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Great! Thank you! I've encountered prickly Banksiae previously. We had a double white in Encino which threw prickly canes regularly. I posted photos of the prickles on the double white page back in 2011 (?).
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