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most recent 20 MAR 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 19 MAR 17 by theycallmejoe
Is this Ocvatus Weld?
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 19 MAR 17 by billy teabag
I think it might be 'Spray Cecile Brunner', theycallmejoe.
"Octavus Weld" and 'Spray Cecile Brunner' share a number of the characteristics you've illustrated here, though "Octavus Weld" has smooth pedicels and 'Spray Cecile Brunner' has glandular ones, and the blooms of 'Spray Cecile Brunner' are smaller.
The fragrance is as you describe and my bush of 'SCB' looks just like your picture.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 20 MAR 17 by theycallmejoe
Ahh. Thanks for that! I did look up Mlle. CB and Jules Thibaud when trying to identify this rose, but I didn't think to look up the spray version. I'm actually delighted at what it is--a super tough, surviving, floriferous, healthy plant with a first class fragrance. But now to get my hands on Octavus Weld!
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 20 MAR 17 by Margaret Furness
Which state are you in? Some I can send cuttings to, others not.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 20 MAR 17 by theycallmejoe
Yes PLEASE! NSW.
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most recent 19 MAR 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 19 MAR 17 by theycallmejoe
Leaves on mature plant are less serrated and more glossy than on my infant cutting grown plant. BIG fragrance for a tiny rose. Spicy, soapy, rosy--does not smell like tea--and really travels in the wind. It began to pop out so many flower buds at 4 months old. I removed most but let a couple bloom to see what was what.
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most recent 19 MAR 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 19 MAR 17 by theycallmejoe
A beautiful and very healthy rose on its own roots, almost always in bloom here in NSW. Inside of 3 years, I've only noticed it break from blooming this summer, after 3 weeks in the high 30s.

The flowers emerge from little pointed buds with frilly sepals. They are at first, a bright magenta edged with white, which produces a truly luminous effect. The hotter the weather, the more quickly they lose this white shading and darken into a flat crimson colour. The rose is very nicely scented with tea and fruit, but unfortunately last 2 days--if that--in a vase.
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most recent 16 MAR 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 MAR 17 by theycallmejoe
I've had this rose (grafted on multiflora) for 3 seasons, 2.5 of which it spent in a small pot situated in less than ideal light--shade from trees local and neighbouring. This season, season 3, seemed to be her year of readiness, putting on fast, red growth and with blooms much larger than I've seen in her short history. She went in the ground in season 3, jumping from pot and running. She was planted at the end of a heat wave (3 weeks of 35C and above weather), and at the beginning of a 2-week spell of heavy rain. Incidentally, two giant trees surrounding had been taken down by the council. She immediately put out 3 big basals, much top growth, all while flowering continuously. Notably, her flowers never balled through the heavy rain (though the petals were mauled by the downpour), and she never showed signs of disease, even from day 1 of life here in a shady yard.

Flowers vary from pure shell pink, to shell pink thinly outlined with darker shade of pink, to pure 'Queen Elizabeth' pink. The family all say she has a "planty" fragrance, which they don't particularly like. But if in her development she is to have the sweet fragrance much described, then that's one more thing to look forward to with this real champion of a rose.
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