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Camieux 
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I bought Seaside Swirl on sale in October in a 5 gal pot. We were just coming out of one of the worst droughts ever. I have never planted a rose in October in my z6 Pennsylvania garden. But I got it in the ground, fill sun. Just picked its first blooms on 5/15/25 after 3 days of rain(4”). The bush is covered in buds that are beginning to open. Will try to take a photo once it stops raining. Very nice scent. Looks like a wild rugosa.
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Rev Douglas Seidel mentions a “Purple Boursault” growing next to a stone pillar near an old barn in Pa., discovered when he was a child when he started rose hunting. He lived outside of Easton, Pa. This was mentioned in a piece he wrote for Heritage Roses, vol.XXV, no. 4, 2000, Still The Thrill Of The Hunt. He mentions quite a few old roses in this article.
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This is one tough plant. I had a tiny plant with one basal planted in a terrible spot with too much shade. I dug it up and moved it twice, it looked like it would die for a few weeks but I continued to give it water soluble fertilizer. I checked it yesterday and it looked much healthier and even had a bloom and new growth.
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#1 of 1 posted
27 APR by
Camieux
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How is your Barbara Worl/Grandmother’s Hat doing now? The exact same thing as you describe has happened to my Barara Worl. My mail ordered plant was a spindly stick. That was over 3 yrs ago. I found it during last year’s horrible drought looking very sad, but it did have some leaves. I replanted it in same area late last summer and am hoping it will survive. Thank you very much for your post. It has given me renewed hope.
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25 FEB 04 by
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I have a Madame Plantier Rose that is appromixately 5' tall and has no buds. It gets full sun and I keep the soil moist. My other roses are blooming and have been since June. This rose was planted at the same time. I am stymied becases I can't figure out why it isn't blooming. I also have been fertilizing with Schultz bloom pus (10-60-10). Please could you give me a suggestion on what to do,
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As I understand them, Mme Plantier roses like partial shade. I've even seen one site mention they like dappled shade.
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15 MAR 15 by
Hardy
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Mine does fine when in pretty deep shade, but its colony of PM also thrives. PM pressure here is intense, and it's probably a different strain than what most of you have, but depending on where you live, you might want to leave it in a pot at the intended location for a while, and see whether it stays healthy.
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26 MAR 24 by
Camieux
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Can you explain what PM means? PM pressure? Thank you. I am deciding on a spot to plant Mme Plantier.
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Probably powdery mildew. I wonder if the OP ever got her rose bush to bloom.
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26 MAR 24 by
Camieux
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Thank you! Makes total sense, fortunately I do not have that problem but suffer from RRD….rose rosette disease. Ugh.
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27 MAR 24 by
Lee H.
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I do hope that you are destroying (best by fire) any specimens you discover with the disease. You probably know it is incurable, and contagious to other roses.
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27 MAR 24 by
Camieux
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Yes, I am unfortunately aware of that. My roses are just beginning to break dormancy and so far so good. Too early to tell yet though.
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