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Lee H. 
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yesterday by
Lex-CC
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Hi! I've just started with rose breeding. I'm in the UK.
I've just crossed a few roses in my garden and hope to collect the hips at the start of October.
I'm trying to think through the best plan as I will be away for a couple of weeks in early October....
Here is my current draft plan:
At the start of October, remove the successful hips, wash briefly in dilute Milton (hypochlorite), rinse in water and store each hip in it's own individual little bags in the fridge whilst I'm away. Then, extract the seeds from the hip, wash the seeds in Milton and rinse in water. Place the sets of seeds in individual little bags with a damp piece of tissue, in the fridge, for a couple of weeks. Then plant out seeds in a tray and leave in the garage over winter.
Please can people advise if this seems reasonable. I don't want to lose my first precious crosses!
Thanks very much in advance.
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#1 of 3 posted
yesterday by
HubertG
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Sounds OK. I'm in Australia and I don't bother with the fridge treatment. I do use dilute bleachy water to clean the seeds once they are removed from the hip, then rinse them with clean water, let them dry on some tissue then plant as soon as I can.
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#2 of 3 posted
yesterday by
Lex-CC
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Thanks very much for the information.
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#3 of 3 posted
yesterday by
Lee H.
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I’d recommend joining the Rose Hybridizers Association (rosebreeders dot org), and getting their book “Rose Hybridizing For Beginners”. Lots of good ideas, and they have an active forum on such subjects.
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Which roses give you the longest lasting blooms (on the plant, not necessarily in a vase)?
The best in my SE England garden are:
Dublin Bay, each flower lasts 4 weeks
Parade, 3 weeks
Ginger Syllabub, 2 weeks
Elmshorn, 2 weeks
(I don't seem to notice the bushes as much as the climbers.)
I think longer lasting flowers make for the most color. Blooms that only last a few days usually repeat faster and can be very floriferous (my stand outs are For Yours Eyes Only and Alibaba), but I really prefer longer lasting blooms. I can’t understand why no one talks about this! I would always go for the longest lasting flowers when buying a rose if this info was available, but it is quite hard to find.
Most newer rose varieties only last a few days each. I think in recent decades, rose breeders have concentrated on healthy foliage and fragrance, whereas in the 1950s-70s long lasting blooms seem to have been a higher priority, and most last a week or more. Older roses than that I think vary by family, but I don't have a lot of experience with them.
Thoughts?
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#1 of 4 posted
4 days ago by
HubertG
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At the moment in winter in Sydney I've noticed my 'Europeana' is giving bloom that doesn't seem to age, lasting for weeks.
I have a pale pink seedling which I bred, 'General Schablikine' x 'Lorraine Lee', which has given winter flowers lasting in good condition for nearly four weeks. It was surprising since neither parent lasts that long, 'General Schablikine' in particular lasting maybe four days at best.
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Thanks for your reply. Interesting that the seedling can differ from the parents in this way. Should I look forward to your new rose coming on the market someday? ;)
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#3 of 4 posted
3 days ago by
HubertG
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Christineb, it's just a hobby for me, but if I did ever produce something really worthwhile I wouldn't rule out trying to introduce it.
Regarding long lasting roses, I'd say probably any rose initially bred for the florist industry that has become popular in gardens stands a good chance of lasting longer than average. I bought on impulse 'Our Vanilla' a few weeks ago, and it is supposed to be such a type of rose, and it is described as having papery petals. It's already sending out shoots, so I'll let you know later on how long they last.
I remember reading an old reference that 'Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria' was outstanding in how well it lasted. I tried growing it years ago but rarely got a flower.
'Peter Frankenfeld' is popular in Australia and for me it lasts well on the bush. It does have quite a lot of the early twentieth century American florist roses in its background, which might explain that.
'Camp David' is another one I grow with lasting flowers. I even made a post a couple of years ago about mine lasting two and a half weeks. It's a surprisingly good winter flowerer here too.
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#4 of 4 posted
3 days ago by
Lee H.
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From casual observation, my top 4:
Beauty Secret
Stars ‘n’ Stripes
Florentina
O.L. Weeks
The latter is very resistant to fading and bluing, and may also be the most vigorous and floriferous hybrid tea in my garden. Yet I’ve found little about it in the literature.
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my WORST rose ever in regards of Black Spot . Since I want to stop to spray , I had to eliminated it . By Julia Child .
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That's too bad because it's been used a lot by breeders.
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#2 of 3 posted
7 days ago by
Lee H.
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Including you, I see, Robert. Did you use it enough to develop a breeder’s impression?
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I used it a couple of seasons , then let it go, but I still have lots of descendants.
It can produce fragrance in offspring. It's fertile both ways but a little easier for pollen.
Knowing what I know now, and having better options, I would have skipped it entirely.
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14 days ago by
fenriz
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some roses are quite red here, even the german nursery where i bought my plant »corrected« the photo of their flowers into a dark-red with no slight blue or violet tint. but my roses almost never got direct sun and the plant itself is quite freshly planted, but i don’t believe this would add or eliminate the purple colour as a whole. the controversy never stops!
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Just a question here. How did you get this site to post a picture in the comment? When I try to do that, the whole post gets rejected.
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#2 of 5 posted
13 days ago by
Lee H.
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Kathy, you have to post the comment first. Then you will see a new button “Add Photo” by your comment, when you look at it from your account posts.
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#3 of 5 posted
13 days ago by
fenriz
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is this feature limited in time? as i can no longer add anything.
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That button is not there anymore. Used to have it, but it went away sometime earlier this year. Which is why I was surprised to see that it worked for somebody else now.
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#5 of 5 posted
12 days ago by
jedmar
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The button is still there, but not in the Q&A listing, which only has the Reply button.
You need to go to your Member listing, open the tab Comments, click the respective post, and there you will find the Edit button.
The change must have happened in one of the recent upgrades.
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