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heliotrope42
most recent 24 MAR SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 29 AUG 22 by heliotrope42
I have a Snow Pavement growing in a pot. I just stuck my nose in a blossoms and oh, my goodness! I'm not good at describing fragrances but it was so rich and deep. Someone may have mentioned to me that this might be a rugosa that is a little less likely to get iron chlorosis in alkaline soils. Does anyone have any input on that possibility?
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 24 MAR by PepperReed
In my Zone 5b/6a garden, I have soil that is very mineral rich (esker) that is fairly neutral (6.8ish) and several trees and shrubs that are susceptible to iron chlorosis are impacted. However, my Snow Pavement doesn't have any issues! She's a beautiful 3x3 shrub, with dense branching and deliciously fragrant flowers from June thru end of August.
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most recent 8 APR 22 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 4 JUL 17 by GardenGlimpses
Striped roses have been around forever, but finally here we have one that can compare to the top tier of hybrid teas. The blooms are large and durable enough that they can hold their own with Mister Lincoln or Maria Callas...no fleeting little weak novelty here. The bloom is well spiraled symmetrical modern hybrid tea for the first half of it life, then changes to a full pillowy confection like an old school English Rose...you sort of get the best of both worlds, and it does both forms quite well and is attractive in all stages. There fair amount of variation in the pinkish-red to white proportions, the mutability of both color and form makes it ever fascinating. The fragrance is truly extraordinary, by that I mean NOT like its relative Scentimental ('good, nice') but like Fragrant Cloud ('WOW! Really?!') It is one of those deep, powerful scents rushes through your nose and perfumes head and makes you a bit dizzy (think Double Delight, Mme Isaac, and again , Fragrant Cloud). It's a pure damask nothing-but-true-rose scent, almost unbelievably strong, like there's a liquid perfume center hiding under all those crazy striped petals.
The plant is generous, tall and vigorous, a bit too bolt upright, might get a little blackspot, but the faults are really negligible for all that it offers..It reminds me a bit of Double Delight, a unique yet high-quality changeling with excellent garden performance and exceptional scent.

So why did Weeks drop it like a turkey carcass onto the rose buying public? It was introduced with very little fanfare. Does anyone really buy a rose because it was named after a 70's era monotone crooner? I understand that it is third in a line of similarly colored striped roses after Scentimental and Rock n Roll, but this one takes it to another level. I blame poor marketing if this rose doesn't become a mainstay! It could stand on its scent alone like a Perfume Delight or Fragrant Cloud, I would have named this one 'Wild Perfume'.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 5 JUL 17 by GardenGlimpses
I totally agree! I'd like the rose to be named for its own qualities, not pinned to a particular person. (I love the names Scentimental and Rock n Roll...both very descriptive of special qualities possessed by this line of Weeks roses). Those two varieties came first and took the better names, while this rose, the crowning achievement of the lot, was stuck with garish 70's Liberace. It's even worse when it's a person with a particular political or religious affiliation, and still more unplatable that so many are the same religious/political bent. I bet the next politician's namesake will be a Huuuge rose.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 20 OCT 19 by heliotrope42
Running into Neil Diamond at the airport... "Hey, aren't you that 70's era monotone crooner?"

Now, "Jimi Hendrix", though, there is a name that could be used if the rose was cool enuf. Maybe a Purple/Yellow stripe.
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Reply #4 of 3 posted 8 APR 22 by Michael Garhart
For me, I passed on seeing this rose in local gardens for several reasons.

1. It has the "Roller Coaster curse", which is elongated canes for no sane reason. I had hoped a generation beyond Rock and Roll would fix this. It fixed the wispiness, but not the needless elongation. It and its sister, 'Donald Duck' has plagued many roses, including 'Oranges and Lemons', 'Papageno', and so on.

2. The tone of pink is really uninteresting. I found it jarring.

3. Black spot. It strips naked by July.
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most recent 31 JUL 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 31 JUL 21 by heliotrope42
For my fellow hybridizers, I'd like to note that seedlings of this rose seem to have good vigor and health here in Zone 3B, northern Minnesota. I never planted Cherri Kolorscape itself outside, and have since lost the plant, but the seedlings of it (crossed with Commander Gillette) are doing quite well. More of an upright and vigorous habit rather than low and mounding.
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most recent 25 JAN 21 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 16 DEC 17 by Daniel Alm
Admins, there's something wrong with the lineage database for BRITE EYES. After the 6th generation of descendants, it repeats again from the 1st to 6th generation again ad infinitum. The descendants listed in the 21st generation are the exact duplicate of the 6th generation. Either Radler inbred or back crossed everything multiple times or there's a system error. Is there a fix for that? ~Benaminh
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 16 DEC 17 by HMF Admin
We'll take a look - thanks so much for taking the time to alert us to this problem.
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 17 DEC 17 by jedmar
The problem is not in the software, but in the declared parentages:
'Morning Magic' <-- RADspot <-- RADbrite <-- RADtee <-- RAD95.1016.17 <-- 'Morning Magic'

then the caroussel starts all over again! Perhaps Bill Radler can correct the error in this loop.
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 17 DEC 17 by jedmar
Parentage of RADbrite is corrected, so that there is no loop any more. The only issue is that the declared parentage in PP 17'391 seems incorrect.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 18 DEC 17 by HMF Admin
Thank you jedmar.

Yes, that's true but the issue is the software allowing this error. Recording and presenting information is only half the battle on a website like HelpMeFind. Ensuring the integrity of the data requires a very significant, if not majority, of the available resources.

We will be addressing this software oversight as well as writing software to root out other instances of this type of error in our database.
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 19 DEC 17 by Jay-Jay
It was in the offspring of a rose (Descendants per Generation), that I experienced the same repeating over and over until the 21rst generation.
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 25 JAN 21 by heliotrope42
By the way, you all are doing some amazing work behind the scenes. Creating a lineage database is not simple or easy, I imagine. As I've found out when trying to whip up a Filemaker database for my rose seedlings. Thanks for all the hidden work you all are doing.
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 16 DEC 17 by Jay-Jay
I experienced the same at another look-up. It started all over at the beginning.
Can't recall the search.
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 17 DEC 17 by HMF Admin
Okay, thanks Jay-Jay.
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