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John Moody
most recent 6 AUG SHOW ALL
Initial post 16 APR 05 by Unregistered Guest
I buried 2 of these, the original and the replacement. It never did leaf out, much less bloom.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 17 OCT 10 by John Moody
Sometimes you just get dud bushes of an otherwise good variety of rose. I have had that happen to me several times. I get a rose and it is a total waste of time and then somehow end up with another of the same and it is like a totally different rose. I have also had the opposite happen. I had a great rose and bought another and it turned out to be a dud. I have one like that now.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 5 AUG by SWiley
Good afternoon- I have been searching high and low to replace our Ronald Reagan rose that was purchased for our daughter Reagan when she was born. Would you be willing to sell a clipping that might be able to transplant, or do you know where I can purchase one?

Thank you so much!
Susan Wiley
Kansas City Metro
Reply #3 of 3 posted 6 AUG by HMF Admin
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most recent 9 JUL SHOW ALL
Initial post 3 JAN 09 by John Moody
What is the color of this Hotel Hershey like?? The picture on Horitco's website is not very good. I think this is a fairly new cultivar, but can anyone relay their experience growing this rose yet??
Reply #1 of 1 posted 9 JUL by viscount89
Basically, it's the same color as Tropicana with a bit of dark pink around the edges at times. It's a wonderful rose but it's a tall, thorny, beast! It is easy to grow...continual bloomer, extremely disease resistant, and EXTREMELY heat tolerant. The best part is that the color doesn't fade in the sun.
most recent 1 JUN SHOW ALL
Initial post 6 MAR 09 by John Moody
I am getting conflicting reports on this rose. Is it a floribunda, grandiflora, or hybrid tea rose???
I love the color of the photos, and most of the pictures look to have more the form of a floribunda rather than a hybrid tea or grandiflora.
Reply #1 of 5 posted 7 MAR 09 by Cass
If Kordes would register it, you would have the straight info. Unfortunately, it's sold within different classes in different parts of the world.
Floribunda in UK
Floribunda at Palantine Roses in Canada
Hybrid Tea in South Africa
Grandiflora at the ARS
Reply #2 of 5 posted 24 OCT 12 by mtspace
It really doesn't fit very well with our typical idea of the high-centered hybrid tea rose. Nor does it send up long, tall cutting canes typical of many hybrid tea roses. Its flowers occur in small clusters of three to seven or so. It tends to repeat-flower more often than most hybrid teas, in my experience. It seems more vigorous than most hybrid tea roses I have grown, too. I think of it as a floribunda with large flowers; and it really fits into the garden best on those terms. Its flowers are quite bright and it needs to be sited accordingly. One of my favorites.
Reply #3 of 5 posted 27 JUN 17 by Philip_ATX
I don't believe the category of "Grandiflora" exists outside the U.S., so it makes sense that it falls on one side or the other of that category (HT or Flor.) in other countries. I don't grow it, however, so I cannot speak from experience to its form.
Reply #4 of 5 posted 27 JUN 17 by mtspace
The "Grandiflora" class has always seemed ridiculous to me. The whole idea of floribundas, IMO, is to combine the large flowers of hybrid tea roses with the floral generosity, cold hardiness, and shrubby habits of polyanthas. Every plant in the class necessarily posesses a combination of traits that lies somewhere in between. I will confess that I have viewed the grandiflora class as a kind of catch-all for roses that fail to have the shrubby and hardiness qualities of floribundas while also failing to make flowers the size of hybrid tea roses.

To the extent my prejudice is justified, lumping South Africa with such roses understates its qualities materially. It is as generous in flower as a good floribunda, Cherry Parfait. And as well branched. It tolerates late spring freezes better than any HT bred outside Germany, IME. Its flowers are as big as those of many hybrid tea roses. I even love the foliage. Its frame and its flowers are largish for a floribunda. Coming in at five or six feet in each direction it might better be described as a shrub. Its biggest drawbacks: The flowers are not notably fragrant, and they don't last longer than about two or three days on the plant. Of the 200 + roses in my garden I cannot think of a rose I've been less tempted to replace with something else, except, perhaps, Malvern Hills.
Reply #5 of 5 posted 1 JUN by Michael Garhart
There isn't a massive difference between Tournament of Roses and Savoy Hotel. Both roughly the same size, color, and bloom size. Yet, two classes. Technically, they are both semi-dwarf large-flowered rose bushes. The only arguable difference is ToR has sprays, but they typically have the same square area of color in any given year. In my opinion, it confuses consumers. The average buyer doesn't care about these nuances. The number one goal of rose culture should be to make roses more accessible to consumers. Not vice versa.
most recent 23 APR SHOW ALL
Initial post 26 OCT 10 by John Moody
No longer listed for sale on Wisconsin Roses website..Is there any other vendor offering this for sale or are we down to trading cuttings of patented roses on this one??
Reply #1 of 10 posted 26 OCT 10 by Slugger15
John, I've been looking everywhere as well for the last few months, and I can't find any place that's offering Stephen Rulo. I'm going to try the new Koko Loco instead.
Reply #2 of 10 posted 26 OCT 10 by HMF Admin
Thanks for the update, we've updated the listing.
Reply #3 of 10 posted 16 DEC 10 by Penelope
Wisconsin Roses has this listed on their "Small Numbers Sale List" on their website but not in the regular catalog. Apparently they still have some. I ordered one today.
Reply #4 of 10 posted 17 DEC 10 by John Moody
I did the same just recently Penelope. I don't know how many Steve has at Wisconsin Roses, but he is the only one with any I think.
Reply #5 of 10 posted 17 DEC 10 by Rosaholic's Southern California Garden
It's a great rose. You will both enjoy it.
Reply #6 of 10 posted 8 MAR 11 by John Moody
I tried growing it a couple of years ago but it just fizzled out. It never got very vigorous at all. I am hoping this second time around it will do better. I am also getting some cuttings from another rosarian friend to try and propagate it as well. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
I am amazed that this rose has already fallen by the wayside of the vendors with none really offering it frontline for sale.
Why do you think this is happening to what is apparently a very pretty rose??
Reply #7 of 10 posted 17 JAN 18 by drossb1986
Do any of you still have this rose and would be willing to send cuttings? I can't find it anywhere.
Reply #8 of 10 posted 8 FEB 18 by mauntainman
I have Stephen Rullo— It has taken a while to get going, but now seems to have gained its stride. I would send you cuttings
Reply #10 of 10 posted 23 APR by handrea80
Hello! By any chance do you still have cuttings of Stephen Rulo that you would be willing to part with? I'd be happy to pay for any cuttings!
Reply #9 of 10 posted 9 FEB 18 by Nastarana
There is no patent listed in the HMF entry, so cuttings would seem to be legal and ethical as well if it is not in commerce.
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