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David Elliott
most recent 3 JUL HIDE POSTS
Initial post 3 JUL by ST

I am searching for a Ruth Alexander climbing rose in the hope of obtaining a cutting for a friend who lives in West Vancouver and who grew this rose for approximately fifty years in her garden. Unfortunately, after she moved, the purchaser of her home took out the rose before my friend could obtain a cutting. Seeing your photo posted on the HelpFindMe website I wondered if you have this rose in your garden or alternatively, if you know the homeowner where the photo was taken. The rose is no longer available commercially (hybridized in the 1930's).
I appreciate that this is a rather unusual request but any help would be wonderful.

Many thanks for your kind consideration regarding this rose.
Sharon Turfus
most recent 16 JUN 19 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 16 JUN 19 by Andrew from Dolton
All the open flowers on this bush have very visible yellow stamens, yet none of the other photographs, from 5 other people, and an illustration has this
Reply #1 of 2 posted 16 JUN 19 by David Elliott
This plant was clearly labeled in one of the two municipal rose gardens in Baden-Baden. The label appears on the photo. I can see yellow stamens on at least one of the other photos. This photo was taken whilst attending the 2013 WFRS Rose trial judging event, I very much doubt that the municipal gardens in Baden-Baden would be in error especially as it is the location of the German Rose Society.
David Elliott
Reply #2 of 2 posted 16 JUN 19 by Andrew from Dolton
It was just an observation, thank you for your information.
most recent 10 MAR 19 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 9 MAR 19 by jedmar
Doesn't look like 'Mélanie Soupert'.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 9 MAR 19 by David Elliott
Hi Behcet

I suggest that you contact Daphne Whitfort-Smith . Daphne is involved with the New Zealand group that has accumulated a list of rare and unknown 'found' roses in New Zealand. They have identified it as Melanie Soubert . I suggest that you giver her some information on yourself
. She is one of the world experts on species roses and is responsible for the species rose collection in Timaru Botanical Garden.
See also my photo from the Japanese Ambassadors in Luxemburg.

Reply #2 of 2 posted 10 MAR 19 by jedmar
Hi David, Yes I looked at all pictures, and we have several from the period - 'Mélanie Soupert' is light yellow with pink highlights and double. This Climbing Rose looks more like 'Souvenir de Malmaison Clg' with a whiff of apricot.
most recent 20 FEB 19 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 20 FEB 19 by StefanDC
Since the other photo taken at this location appeared incorrect to me (see comment under other photo), I expected that this one is also an R. spinosissima form or hybrid, as well. However, I now think it may just be atypical growth from graft union problems and/or nutrient deficiency. (I've retracted the accuracy mark).
Reply #1 of 3 posted 20 FEB 19 by David Elliott
This garden has its specimen plants clearly labeled. It is my practice to photograph the label as 'notes' Since 2002 I have put the label photo on HMF.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 20 FEB 19 by StefanDC
I'm not quite sure what you mean (I didn't see the label photo here), but I'm not questioning that the plant you photographed was labeled 'Schneezwerg' by the garden--I'm sure it was. What I'm saying is that the plant itself is not 'Schneezwerg', so it wasn't correctly labeled by the garden, and therefore the photo does not depict 'Schneezwerg'.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 20 FEB 19 by StefanDC
Now that I look at it again, it appears that the specimen is grafted high, and may just be growing strangely for the variety, and showing some nutrient deficiency. It's probably not conclusive, and could be 'Schneezwerg' after all, looking rather atypical for the clone. I should have considered that before marking the image.
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