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Available from - Mint julep
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The books I have and the descriptions of this rose say/show crimson to purple, whereas the photos here are more "hybrid perpetual pink."
Are there mis-named clones being sold as this rose out there?
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Michael...I just bought this rose in August at Heirloom and there was one bloom open on the plant. It was definitely red...bright crimson red....it is now in Marin county, California and has yet to throw another bud but I am hoping that it is red and not hot pink like all these other photos show.
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Im beginning to wonder if a mislabel happened somewhere in commerce. Let us know your experiences next year!
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will do...I am hoping the plant will bloom for me this year and I will take a photo when it does and send it to you if you give me your email address.
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Heirlooms catalog pictures of this rose are all pink. are pink.
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24 SEP 14 by
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Vintage listed this in their last years commenting that in Greg's opinion it wasn't the real thing. I think Rogue was the first to sell it.
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From Vintage Gardens Book of Roses, 2006 edition, p.48
(Souvenir du President Lincoln) "Large, broad lilac-rose blooms of intense coloring and excellent fragrance; we fear this cannot be the rose originally sold under this name, a rose that honored Abraham Lincoln, a rose that should be deep crimson shaded blackish red."
Vintage gave their source as Schultheis.
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I have added that reference and put a note on the main page.
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This is the first bloom this year.. Most of my roses are on their 3rd bloom. This is by far my most challenging rose bit I still love it.
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PhotoDiscussion id : 84-006
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An incredible specimen a beautiful old rose bush. Thanks for sharing.
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I am glad you enjoyed this photo of talisman and my grandson. The plant is now just starting its bloom cycle for this year. I will be taking more photos soon. I couldn't get a cutting started so broke down and bought one from Heirloom last fall.
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