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Initial post 28 OCT 18 by roselover
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Initial post 14 MAR 13 by Michael Garhart
The books I have and the descriptions of this rose say/show crimson to purple, whereas the photos here are more "hybrid perpetual pink."

Are there mis-named clones being sold as this rose out there?
Reply #1 of 7 posted 8 SEP 14 by roselover
Michael...I just bought this rose in August at Heirloom and there was one bloom open on the plant. It was definitely red...bright crimson is now in Marin county, California and has yet to throw another bud but I am hoping that it is red and not hot pink like all these other photos show.
Reply #2 of 7 posted 8 SEP 14 by Michael Garhart
Im beginning to wonder if a mislabel happened somewhere in commerce. Let us know your experiences next year!
Reply #3 of 7 posted 8 SEP 14 by roselover
will do...I am hoping the plant will bloom for me this year and I will take a photo when it does and send it to you if you give me your email address.
Reply #7 of 7 posted 9 MAY 18 by timdufelmeier
Heirlooms catalog pictures of this rose are all pink. are pink.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 24 SEP 14 by sam w
Vintage listed this in their last years commenting that in Greg's opinion it wasn't the real thing. I think Rogue was the first to sell it.
Reply #5 of 7 posted 27 APR 18 by Nastarana
From Vintage Gardens Book of Roses, 2006 edition, p.48

(Souvenir du President Lincoln) "Large, broad lilac-rose blooms of intense coloring and excellent fragrance; we fear this cannot be the rose originally sold under this name, a rose that honored Abraham Lincoln, a rose that should be deep crimson shaded blackish red."

Vintage gave their source as Schultheis.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 27 APR 18 by Patricia Routley
I have added that reference and put a note on the main page.
most recent 6 AUG 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 6 AUG 15 by roselover
This is the first bloom this year.. Most of my roses are on their 3rd bloom. This is by far my most challenging rose bit I still love it.
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most recent 1 APR 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 1 APR 15 by Loggerite
An incredible specimen a beautiful old rose bush. Thanks for sharing.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 1 APR 15 by roselover
I am glad you enjoyed this photo of talisman and my grandson. The plant is now just starting its bloom cycle for this year. I will be taking more photos soon. I couldn't get a cutting started so broke down and bought one from Heirloom last fall.
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