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'Chromatella' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 153-847
most recent 5 NOV HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 NOV by Margaret Furness
Billy Teabag says that people here call any yellow climber Cloth of Gold (and any red one Black Boy). I see that Italy and Portugal have Cl White Maman Cochet mislabelled as this rose.
We need someone who grows it in France, its country of origin and surely with places where it would thrive, to post detailed ID-type photos please.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 5 NOV by Lee H.
Margaret, it is not only Italy and Portugal. Here in the US, about four years ago, Rose Petals Nursery was selling (steeply discounted) something they called “Peter Beales Chromatella”, so I thought for $7, I’d take a chance; it is hard to find here. It was almost certainly White Climbing Maman Cochet, and quite underwhelming in my garden. I didn’t keep it.

I don’t blame the nursery…I believe they were probably supplied the wrong rose, and just trying to minimize their losses. But this may be a clue as to the origins of the mix-up.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 5 NOV by Margaret Furness
That's a pity: Cl White Maman Cochet can be stunning where it's suited, and when it's in a good mood.
An 1881 reference states that Cloth of Gold was very hard to strike from cuttings. It still is.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 5 NOV by Lee H.
Actually, neither rose is suited to my climate, but after reading Rivers’ wonderful description of his first encounter with ‘Cloth of Gold’, I knew I would go to any extreme to see those “golden bells” for myself. Not so for Maman Cochet, though I am certain it has its charms in the proper locale.
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Discussion id : 140-509
most recent 16 APR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 APR by Jay-Jay
There exists and old apple variety in Europe that's called Drap d'Or too.
Just take a look on Wikimedia, or in Google pictures, for I can't upload the link.
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Discussion id : 116-536
most recent 8 MAY 19 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 2 MAY 19 by Patricia Routley
Commenting further on Bonita’s photo of ‘Chromatella’ grown at Highfields, Queensland.
Bonita, I am struck by tha deep yellow at the base of the bud and the green pedicels. Other photos show some red on the bud and reddish pedicels. These traits may be a result of your growing conditions, but can you tell us more about the rose please, including its provenance?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 7 MAY 19 by bonbon
I think I purchased it in 2003/2004 from Perrotts Nursery in Brisbane.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 8 MAY 19 by Patricia Routley
Thanks for that Bonbon. Your last photo was such a deep yellow that I thought it might be 'Duchesse d'Auerstädt‘, but I see you also have that rose as well. Have you ever seen your ‘Chromatella show any violet-purple new canes?
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Discussion id : 107-639
most recent 27 JAN 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 27 JAN 18 by CybeRose
Gardening 1: 388 (Sept 1, 1893)
Our best hardy climbing roses are Marechal Niel; Cloth of Gold (the true one, most of them now a-days, are only the Solfaterre, or the still later Augusta). I saw Cloth of Gold and Solfaterre large outdoor plants, in fully bloom side by side here in 1849, they had come from Buist two years previous; there is no comparison in the bloom, though the wood, growth, and habit are the same. I then discarded Solfaterre for good. Reine Marie Henriette; Imperatrice Eugenie; Estelle Pradel; Celine Forestier; Perle de Lyon; Gloire de Dijon; Cherokee; Margueretta, Jeanne d' Arc, Triomphe de la Duchesse; Woodland Marguerite; W. A. Richardson; Madame Deslongchamps.

Memphis, Tenn. James Stewart.
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