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    most recent 31 DEC 22  
    RoseGoethe (Moss, Lambert, 1911)
    Initial post 31 DEC 22
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    most recent 21 MAY 19  
    RoseGoethe (Moss, Lambert, 1911)
    Initial post 11 MAY 19 by CMalarkey
    I would like to know can anyone supply a reference to support the statement I've read that Graham Thomas disparaged 'Goethe.'
    Reply #1 posted 11 MAY 19 by jedmar
    'Goethe' is not mentioned in either of GST's books on Shrub roses.
    Reply #2 posted 15 MAY 19 by Palustris
    Yes, that's correct, but he did mention 'Goethe' in the GST 'Rose Book'

    " A rather unsuccessful merging of two dissimilar parents, R. multiflora and a moss rose. Very vigorous, excessively prickly with much bristly brownish-green moss. Panicles of flowers are born freely; they are small semi-double or nearly single, light crimson to pink, with some scent. 5 feet"
    Reply #3 posted 15 MAY 19 by jedmar
    I am intrigued: where does he say that? The "Rose Book" is a compendium of his two books on Shrub roses plus "Climbing Roses Old and New" and I could not find a mention in any of These.
    Reply #4 posted 15 MAY 19 by Patricia Routley
    Page 64. In between ‘Gloire des Mousseux’ and ‘Henri Martin’.
    Reply #5 posted 16 MAY 19 by jedmar
    Those two are on p. 187 of "Old Shrub Roses" and there is nothing in between. It seems GST did not just add the 3 books, but revised the text. I will have to get the "Rose Book" too.
    Reply #6 posted 21 MAY 19 by kgs
    Here's the citation:

    Thomas, Graham Stuart. The Graham Stuart Thomas Rose Book. Portland, Or.: Sagapress/Timber, 1994.

    The ISBN is 0881922803. A note in the bibliographic record states, "Comprising The old shrub roses. Shrub roses of today. Climbing roses old and new; enlarged and thoroughly revised." The last statement suggests GST not only compiled three books but added material.
    Reply #7 posted 21 MAY 19 by jedmar
    Thank you, I ordered it! Cheapest was to buy it from USA.
    most recent 24 JAN 19  
    RoseGoethe (Moss, Lambert, 1911)
    Initial post 24 JAN 19 by Unregistered Guest
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