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'Spectabile' rose Reviews & Comments
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6 APR 13 by
andrewandsally
Soulange-Bodin's Institut Horticole de Fromont reports in its Annales for 1829 (p.279) reports 'Ayez', giving a detailed description.
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#1 of 4 posted
7 APR 13 by
jedmar
Reading this description of 'Ayez' as a hybrid china, I wonder whether the synonym to 'Spectabilis' as claimed by Rivers in 1837 is not erroneous ("sans s'élever beacoup")
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#2 of 4 posted
17 APR 13 by
andrewandsally
(Sorry about the sloppy typing in the note to which you responded.) Very confusing. Not helped by the fact that Fratelli Tagliabue (1840) list 'Ayez' as a Damask, in that it comes under 'omnium Kalendarum', while the Fromont Institute catalogue (1829 p.279) classifies it as "hybride de Bengale". This latter catalogue fortunately gives a detailed description of it.
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#3 of 4 posted
17 JAN 23 by
andrewandsally
Sorry to have waited nearly ten years to reply, Jedmar. Anyway, I'm sure you're right and that Rivers had made a mistake. The 1832 edition of Annales de l'Institute Royal Horticole de Fromont (fourth volume) gives both 'Ayez' and 'Spectabilis'. The former is listed as you might expect under "Rosiers Hybrides" (p. 220) and the latter as a Noissette (p. 218).
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#4 of 4 posted
17 JAN 23 by
jedmar
I am glad you agree, we will demerge the two listings. The error might have happened because there was an earlier hybrid china named 'Spectabilis', too.
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3 SEP 17 by
Andrew from Dolton
How tall will this rose grow?
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3 SEP 17 by
jedmar
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#2 of 2 posted
3 SEP 17 by
Andrew from Dolton
Thanks, it will be on my list to buy this autumn.
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