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Initial post today by drogers
It is always good for rose growers to receive feedback on desired varieties. It is the customer that is the ultimate judge of what grows well and where. This knowledge from the customer helps the small rose nursery to make the best decisions as to what to grow, to maintain plants in commerce for the present and future generations. Without this feedback a truly deserving rose might be lost. As a result of this very thing we hope to have this plant available in 2019.
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Initial post today by Patricia Routley
There is a parentage listed in the 2018-57 reference. I have not yet added it as I suspect it may be an error.
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Initial post yesterday by Doug Hauschild
Maria Shriver hybridizer..... Dorieux, 2004
Reply #1 of 1 posted yesterday by Patricia Routley
We have that listed. What’s your point please?
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Initial post 20 MAY by HubertG
I hope this illustrates that those roses that don't usually set hips can do so under certain conditions. In February this year I noticed a bloom of 'White Maman Cochet' that had been half-eaten away by some pest, partly exposing a group of normal looking pistils. I removed the rest of the petals and I took the opportunity to pollinate it using 'Papa Gontier' because it was fresh on hand. Of course I had no idea if it had already been pollinated by an insect before I got to it. The hip readily swelled and then actually split but continued to develop on the bush. Today (20th May 2018) I noticed that the hip had been nibbled by some pest so, even though it didn't appear ripe, I cut it off to avoid losing it all together. There were many seeds inside, some very small but I'll plant them all to see what comes up. This is the only hip I've ever seen on my 'White Maman Cochet'.
Reply #1 of 7 posted 20 MAY by Patricia Routley
Divide them into three, and
1. put one third in a paper towel with a few drops of water, and then into a plastic-wrap bundle in the crisper for four weeks.
2. plant one third now in a tray of seed raising mix
3. I don't know. Any suggestions from anybody?
Reply #2 of 7 posted 21 MAY by HubertG
I've just put them in a snap-lock bag in the fridge for now. I don't really know if tea rose seeds benefit from cold treatment. Does anyone else know? Does this only benefit European roses? I figure it can't hurt anyway. I'll plant half of them next weekend in any case.
Reply #3 of 7 posted 1 JUN by HubertG
I didn't know where to put this, so I thought I'd just add it on here. It's a reference to a yellow sport of 'White Maman Cochet' but I don't know if it was ever introduced into commerce.

From 'Rosen-Zeitung' 1910, page 13

"Gelber Maman Cochet - Sport
Herr Pfarrexpositus Kromer besitzt seit 2-3 Jahren einen schön gelben Sport der weissen Maman Cochet. Die mir Ende November gesandten Blumen waren scwefelgelb. P.L."

My translation: (and not exactly sure how 'Pfarrexpositus' should translate, but it's a Church position).

Yellow Maman Cochet - Sport
Pastor Kromer has in his possession for the last 2-3 years a beautiful yellow sport of 'White Maman Cochet'. Those flowers sent to me at the end of November were sulphur-yellow.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 1 JUN by Patricia Routley
I will respond further in 'Pastor Kromer's Yellow Sport of White Maman Cochet'.
Reply #5 of 7 posted 2 days ago by HubertG
Just a follow-up on the hip from my 'White Maman Cochet' - today I noticed the first seedling had germinated from the seeds I'd planted. At least it shows that the seeds are viable, especially since they were all rather small. I hope it survives and I get something worthwhile keeping.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 2 days ago by Margaret Furness
Good luck!
Reply #7 of 7 posted 2 days ago by HubertG
Thanks, I'm hoping it might be somewhat mildew-resistant especially if the pollen parent is 'Papa Gontier', so it might have a good chance to survive its first few weeks.
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