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Which roses give you the longest lasting blooms (on the plant, not necessarily in a vase)?
The best in my SE England garden are:
Dublin Bay, each flower lasts 4 weeks
Parade, 3 weeks
Ginger Syllabub, 2 weeks
Elmshorn, 2 weeks
(I don't seem to notice the bushes as much as the climbers.)
I think longer lasting flowers make for the most color. Blooms that only last a few days usually repeat faster and can be very floriferous (my stand outs are For Yours Eyes Only and Alibaba), but I really prefer longer lasting blooms. I can’t understand why no one talks about this! I would always go for the longest lasting flowers when buying a rose if this info was available, but it is quite hard to find.
Most newer rose varieties only last a few days each. I think in recent decades, rose breeders have concentrated on healthy foliage and fragrance, whereas in the 1950s-70s long lasting blooms seem to have been a higher priority, and most last a week or more. Older roses than that I think vary by family, but I don't have a lot of experience with them.
Thoughts?
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#1 of 4 posted
4 days ago by
 HubertG
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At the moment in winter in Sydney I've noticed my 'Europeana' is giving bloom that doesn't seem to age, lasting for weeks.
I have a pale pink seedling which I bred, 'General Schablikine' x 'Lorraine Lee', which has given winter flowers lasting in good condition for nearly four weeks. It was surprising since neither parent lasts that long, 'General Schablikine' in particular lasting maybe four days at best.
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Thanks for your reply. Interesting that the seedling can differ from the parents in this way. Should I look forward to your new rose coming on the market someday? ;)
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#3 of 4 posted
3 days ago by
HubertG
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Christineb, it's just a hobby for me, but if I did ever produce something really worthwhile I wouldn't rule out trying to introduce it.
Regarding long lasting roses, I'd say probably any rose initially bred for the florist industry that has become popular in gardens stands a good chance of lasting longer than average. I bought on impulse 'Our Vanilla' a few weeks ago, and it is supposed to be such a type of rose, and it is described as having papery petals. It's already sending out shoots, so I'll let you know later on how long they last.
I remember reading an old reference that 'Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria' was outstanding in how well it lasted. I tried growing it years ago but rarely got a flower.
'Peter Frankenfeld' is popular in Australia and for me it lasts well on the bush. It does have quite a lot of the early twentieth century American florist roses in its background, which might explain that.
'Camp David' is another one I grow with lasting flowers. I even made a post a couple of years ago about mine lasting two and a half weeks. It's a surprisingly good winter flowerer here too.
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#4 of 4 posted
3 days ago by
Lee H.
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From casual observation, my top 4:
Beauty Secret
Stars ‘n’ Stripes
Florentina
O.L. Weeks
The latter is very resistant to fading and bluing, and may also be the most vigorous and floriferous hybrid tea in my garden. Yet I’ve found little about it in the literature.
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The rose 'Morden Sunrise', offered at Jung Seeds this year, looks like it could be a cold climate alternative to 'Mutabilis'. It was introduced in 1991, so there ought to be some consensus about its health and flowering qualities.
Would anyone here from a colder area recommend MS?
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Hello everyone, can someone suggest me roses with huge blooms (more than 6"), i have few roses with huge blooms such as Parole, Paul Neyron, Great Century, Veterans' Honor, Rouge Royale etc. I'm planning to buy few more roses with huge flowers, can anyone suggest me some roses.
Thank you.
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Growing conditions makes a huge difference.
South Seas, Frist Prize, Medallion, Brandy, French Perfume, are a few that come to mind.
There are probably newer varieties with which I am less familiar. Good luck!
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Hi Robert, thanks for the wonderful suggestions, i already have South Seas and First Prize in my garden. I will check the availability of other roses.
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Some huge flowers over balance their plants. David Austin's 'Golden Celebration' offers, for those who have room for it, huge gold blooms on a large, vigorous and well foliaged plant. I understand it can be trained as a climber.
The largest hybrid perpetual is probably 'Paul Neyron'. In India, you might get a decent sized plant; for me in New York state, it was a one cane wonder.
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Hi Nastarana, thanks for your great suggestions. Golden Celebrations was in my wish-list for so long, i will buy once its is available. Here in India it is very difficult to get rose varieties in nurseries, also the big rose companies like David Austin, Heirloom Roses, Ludwig's etc are not available. The Paul Neyron rose is growing bushier but it rarely blooms unlike my other roses.
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#5 of 8 posted
6 SEP 23 by
Lee H.
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I agree with Mr. Rippetoe that local conditions play a big role, e.g., in my location Paul Neyron blooms are only average size.
Medallion grows pretty large for me, but my consistently largest blooms (from over 100 cultivars) are from Papa Meilland. But that may be only because he finds my conditions perfect…
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Hello Lee, yes i'm planning to buy the Medallion rose, i have Papa Meilland in my garden but the plant is very small as its been only 2-3 months since i brought it, it bloomed 2 times but the blooms were average size due to the plant being small. I have big hopes for Papa Meilland ????.
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#8 of 8 posted
6 SEP 23 by
Lee H.
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Using HMF’s advanced search, under “bloom characteristics”, you can search all roses for extra large blooms, and then add in any number or other characteristics, such as color, to limit the search to a manageable number.
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'Pink Peace', 'Maria Callas', Color Magic', Typhoon, 'Friendship'
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Hello. New here from the Ozarks and looking to get my first roses, and have come here for some suggestions. I thank you in advance and appreciate any help you may give.
I have approx 200 feet of rock retaining wall that is mostly about 2ft tall, with a section up to 4ft tall. I would like to use the climbing type of roses that will run the length of this wall. I understand that it will take several plants and they will have to be trained. Are there any particular ones that you recommend for such a low height structure?
I also understand roses prefer to grow 'up'. Can some be trained to droop over and down if planted on top of the retaining wall vs planting them at the base?
I would really like to use roses, but if this is not an arrangement they would thrive with, I understand and will search out alternatives.
Most of the wall will have a shade time, sometime during the day. The rock wall that is about 4ft tall and runs about 40ft in length is the one area that will be in full sun from sun-up to sun-down.
Again, thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing what you have to say.
Have a Blessed day.
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#1 of 5 posted
4 MAY 22 by
Lee H.
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Hi, I can only give one personal recommendation…’Red Cascade’. It is naturally procumbent (but can be trained as a climber), and can easily create a 12 ft diameter octopus groundcover in just one season in zone 6. I would suggest you try the advanced search feature, where you can search roses by their habit (arching, spreading, etc.) and growing uses (beds and borders, ground cover, etc). Might at least give you some ideas.
OK, is that Malibu a small block motor? :-)
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#2 of 5 posted
4 MAY 22 by
72Malibu
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Since these roses will be the very first of my gardening adventure, I was unsure when using the advance search if what it showed me would work. Thank you, I’ll look into those.
I’m running a 355
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#3 of 5 posted
4 MAY 22 by
Lee H.
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Nice! Well, I know there are at least two gearheads who also grow roses around here. I’m a “hot rod Lincoln” kinda guy.
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#4 of 5 posted
5 MAY 22 by
72Malibu
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Guess we got in trouble with the pics, huh? Beautiful Lincoln. About 1940-41 or so ?
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Actually, there are some gearheads here at HMF that are equally impressed(!) with this beauty but we have learned, the hard way, relaxing our gardening-photos-only rule creates problems.
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