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Initial post today by Michael Garhart
Year 4. It's blooming now. Going to compost it soon. The other "European orange HT/GR types" I have that are younger are out-performing it in bloom amount and color retention.

Namely Halle, Dronning Ingrid (and Remember Me, but its older here).

Even my virused clone of 'Marina' outperforms it, and the blooms are the same size.

And from North America: Louise Hay.
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Initial post yesterday by moriah
My own root Sharifa is doing fantastic here in Western Washington. My soil is rocky and drains fast so I need to water often. This rose is in partial shade and has a lovely strong perfume.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted today by Jay-Jay
I would like to exaggerate: A very strong, good, but a bit soapy perfume.
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Discussion id : 111-658
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Initial post yesterday by Les Racines du Vent
There is something reminiscent of Rosa majalis in Rosa x suionum (pubescence on young shoots, brownich red wood...). In my opinion, it doesn't look like an alba, neither a centifolia, so my guess is that the rose currently known as 'Minette' might not be the original or (as it oftens happens so) the original classification was a bit loose, if i may say.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted today by Nastarana
What this rose does resemble is 'Jeremiah Pink' from High Country Roses. JP is a found rose from Fairmont Cemetery in Denver. It could surely have been brought to North America from Scandinavia and found its way to Denver. JP in my view also does not resemble an alba. It does give one profuse flowering in spring and makes a rather attractive shrub the rest of the season. I have it planted along the property line which in my view is the best use of it.
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Discussion id : 111-627
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Initial post yesterday by HubertG
The description page for 'Alexander Hill Gray' says "sets no hips". I've always found mine sets hips (which hold seeds) fairly readily. I find this a bit puzzling.
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Reply #1 of 10 posted yesterday by HMF Admin
And this is exactly why comments like yours are so useful and what makes HMF so special. At some point in time, a permanent reference indicated otherwise and now we know that reference is in question based on your experience.

We need more people take the time to share their experience - Thanks !
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Reply #2 of 10 posted yesterday by Patricia Routley
I certainly wouldn't discount that reference Admin. What we need is more of them to say if this rose does, or does not set hips. The fact that we show just one 1922 descendant indicates that it does not, and therefore there is a possibility that HubertG has received a rose other than 'Alexander Hill Gray'. Every reference is valuable.
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Reply #3 of 10 posted yesterday by HubertG
Thanks HMF Admin,
This site is a veritable commonwealth of rose knowledge; the more contributions the better.

Patricia, I have two bushes of AHG ordered from different nurseries maybe 5 years apart. They are both the same and both do set hips. They do look the same as other AHGs in Australia posted here (I've posted a few photos of mine too) This is a double rose but not what I'd call a full one and so they have normal looking reproductive parts and, if insects can get in, I can't see any reason (barring an odd ploidy) why it shouldn't set hips. That's why I thought the no hips reference was unusual. By the time AHG was introduced Teas were waning in popularity, so that is probably the likeliest reason it wasn't used much in breeding, in my opinion.
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Reply #4 of 10 posted yesterday by HubertG
There are in fact a couple of hips on Margaret Furness' photo here:

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.304447
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Reply #5 of 10 posted yesterday by Patricia Routley
That is interesting HubertG. They are hard to see, but I do see them.
I suspect Margaret didn't note them as she has said in her more recent photo 315211 that her plant didn't set hips.
Unfortunately 'Alexander Hill Gray' never came my way, so I have no first-hand experience. How else can I help here?
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Reply #6 of 10 posted yesterday by HubertG
Best to wait for more comments on this topic, I'd say.
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Reply #7 of 10 posted yesterday by Margaret Furness
Maybe it varies with how the weather has been. There's nothing on mine now that I would call a hip. It doesn't flower much in a dry summer.
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Reply #8 of 10 posted yesterday by billy teabag
Do your 'Alexander Hill Gray' plants have prickles HubertG?
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Reply #9 of 10 posted yesterday by HubertG
No, it's virtually thornless. I took some photos this morning of a few hips on one of my AHGs, which I'll post later.

Its thornlessness was the reason I had previously questioned whether it might have in fact been Mme Derepas-Metrat, one of the other "Yellow Cochets", because that was nearly thornless according to references, and thornlessness is a rarity in early roses.
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Reply #10 of 10 posted today by HubertG
There were five hips on one of my plants this morning. I didn't check the other plant. The split hip is one I collected about April, showing the seeds. I do think the weather conditions play a part; AHG does tend to ball a bit, so if it doesn't open, it won't become fertilised.
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