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Recent Questions, Answers and Comments
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Pacifier has suggested Climbing Dame Edith Helen for this rose.
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Not having ‘Dame Edith Helen’ myself, I would say Pacifier is dead right, mainly due to your observation that the canes are “brittle”, and the 1940-65 reference “if roughly handled”… I think the only last question now is to determine if it is the bush or climber. Well done to you all in South Australia for conserving this famous old rose.
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I commented on the branches being pithy to cut, and he said that was also a characteristic of Dame Edith Helen. The description of the bush form says it's well-branched, which the Blakiston plant (from Lexie) isn't. It produces very long canes.
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Pacifier has suggested General Jack for this rose.
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I can't help with this one. Perhaps others can?
I recall a 2007 correspondence with Bill Grant wherein he asked:
>Have you grown 'General Jacqueminot' - if so, how did it grow and were you happy with it.
Two plants. One from the Pinjarra Heritage Rose Garden in 2002,
and the other a foundling passed on to me by Rose Marsh, also in 2002. Widely separated. I've never seen a flower from either!
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Pacifier pointed out the rust on the leaves, which I hadn't noticed, but General Jack is susceptible to it. I will check other roses at Blakiston for it.
I haven't grown GJ.
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I believe this one and the other photo is Black Beauty 99 and not the older Black Beauty.
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Per ARE email, parentage is Dee-Lish X (Thomas Affleck X Autumn Damask). Or, in other words, "Lasting Memories" is a cross between "Dee-Lish" and "Southern Damask", and a sister to (or simply a rename of) "Cologne King". Additionally, this rose was formerly sold as/named "Sultry Kiss" prior to renaming as "Lasting Memories".
Blooms last about 5 days on the bush in full sun. Extremely vigorous in MD 7B, first year is already 4ft x 4ft, clean foliage, not one thorn anywhere, even basals and under leaves, legitimately the only truly thornless rose I've ever come across. Virtually no blackspot despite high BS pressure in a hot and humid no-spray garden. Fast repeat flushes every 4 weeks through frost.
Color is very similar to double knockout roses, but the blooms are larger, well cupped and reminiscent of old David Austin roses e.g. Graham Thomas. Prior to falling off the rose, petals fade to light/mid-purple, as opposed to the washed-out pink of the double knock out.
Only disappointment thus far is the strength of the fragrance. It's mild, moderate on the best of days, typically only during mid morning and again in late afternoon. A mix of old rose and lemongrass to my nose, certainly taking after Dee-Lish but much milder in strength. No wafting. Perhaps with age, or in a different environment, the fragrance will be stronger.
A great rose for bold color in high-traffic areas.
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