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Discussion id : 111-442
most recent 13 days ago HIDE POSTS
Initial post 13 days ago by Patricia Routley
André - I note that all of your roses are listed in UPPERCASE. The standard that HelpMeFind uses is Upper and Lower case. Would you like to change the names of your named roses please? I can do it for you if you like, but obviously would prefer you to do it.
Many thanks.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 13 days ago by a_carl76
my apologies, I didn’t realize there were rules on the case of letters. Many of the names are in actuality code names. Is it okay if I only change those those that are varietal names and not the code names.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 13 days ago by Patricia Routley
Of course. Thanks again for your co-operation.
Discussion id : 111-077
most recent 29 MAY HIDE POSTS
Initial post 29 MAY by cinsia
Hi I am trying to add a Veterans memorial rose garden at a Pioneer Cemetery in Eugene OR and would love to add Code of Honor to the plot. Do you sell it or have cuttings?
Discussion id : 110-917
most recent 23 MAY HIDE POSTS
Initial post 23 MAY by JasonSims1984
Robert, I have been fascinated reading and following your work with Lila Banks and its impressive dynasty of progeny. Many of which are quite colorful and beautiful. I love lavender. It's my favorite color, so I have been keeping tabs on everyone's projects breeding for lavender for quite a while now.

You mentioned to me in another thread that you have been working with bracteata a lot. Clinophylla too. I am very interested in those species because of their other-than-china rebloom genetics.

I want to work on three species in particular: rugosa, bracteata, and roxburghii. Clinophylla is very tender but I could find a way to use it too.

I was wondering if you had some advice and ideas, particularly regarding bracteata. I have read from many sources that it's challenging to use. Then I've also heard that it's reasonably pollen fertile.

I know that Ralph Moore was extremely proud of Muriel because it took him forever to make that cross take. I also know that it produced a lot of nice things.

I don't really know where to get it. I do know where to find Happenstance, one of the miniature sports of Mermaid, though. I have bracteata and Pink Surprise, a rugosa x bracteata cross. I might try Little Gray Pearl, as Muriel is a parent of it.

I was wondering though if you had any bract seedlings that have been particularly useful. I would love to trade for daylily species, or historic Iris, or even some rugosas. Whatever you'd like. An IOU for stuff I end up working on, whatever you like. Even if you just have bract crosses that weren't winners that you want to toss.

I've got stapeliads, cacti, succulents, orchids, lots of stuff. I bet I have something you'd like. Let me know.

Reply #1 of 1 posted 23 MAY by Robert Neil Rippetoe

This is a huge topic. I'll try to hone in on a few points and we can go from there. I'm assuming your relatively young from your screen name. I can't iterate enough the importance of starting young with some of these endeavors. They literally take decades,

If you had contacted me several years ago when I still had access to Viru's clinophylla/bracteata cross you might have been ahead of the game. They seemed to lean heavily toward clinophylla in terms of phenotype but seemingly vastly more fertile that bracteata itself,

Bracteata is a very distinctive species, quite aggressive in mild climates. A number of hybridizers have made breakthroughs in terms in getting first generation hybrids but they are relatively few and far between compared to most species. I tried using the species early on but quickly came to the realization that it's much easier to move forward building on the work of others. You may have more luck with it. I'd use it differently were I to go back and work with it again.

(Ralph Moore made repeated attempts with it for many years and only got, 'Muriel'.)

Viru shared with me some time ago that 'Pink Surprise' can offer fertility as pollen parent. That might be a place to start since you have it already. It's a beautiful rose but too large for most gardens and gardeners.

Finding a reliable seed parent that works in your climate, preferably with bracteata genetics is paramount. I have many.

Just remember, integrating no species is a panacea. We get the good with the bad and the ugly.

Send me a private message and we can go from there.

Best wishes, Robert
Discussion id : 110-874
most recent 22 MAY HIDE POSTS
Initial post 21 MAY by JasonSims1984
Hi Kim. :) I have always been very fascinated with your crosses when I'm browsing this site. I wondered if you still grow fedtschenkoana, or if you maybe still have some hybrids of it laying around somewhere. :) I really want to play with this species and try to recreate the Autumn Damask with some improvements like thicker canes, fewer thorns and better repeat. I would be very happy to send you some Irises. I'm certain you have every rose I could send you. lol.
Reply #1 of 10 posted 21 MAY by Rupert, Kim L.
Hi Jason, yes sir, I still have Fedtschenkoana, though it's just barely hanging on. I need to repot it as it's almost out of soil, so I don't know if there are any suckers available. And, yes, I do have some hybrids of it as well as pollen collected from them. These are here now...

Something like two Pink Petticoat X Fedtschenkoana and several others.
Reply #2 of 10 posted 21 MAY by JasonSims1984
I like all three, but those first two are really nice. I love lavender colors especially, so the idea of a IHT lila banks cross is really exciting. It would be so neat to cross lavender HTs to several species and then recombine them all to create a rampant lavender. What can I offer you for those? It would be great to cross and recombine them. I want the scented leaves and colorful foliage traits the most from this species. And its propensity for creating moss roses. I have a very lofty set of goals.
Reply #3 of 10 posted 21 MAY by Rupert, Kim L.
Hi Jason, I have emailed you at the email address you have listed here on HMF. Thanks. Kim
Reply #4 of 10 posted 22 MAY by AquaEyes
Kim sent me cuttings of 'R. fedtschenkoana' and its offspring 'DLFED 3', which I've been growing in containers for the last few years. Both are ready to bust out of their current 22" resin barrels, and will be planted at my "cemetery project" either this Autumn or next year. Kim messaged me about your interest, and I'll check tomorrow to see if either has a sucker I can easily remove. I don't want to remove them from their pots as they're currently blooming. If I can't find something I can get now, I'll try rooting cuttings after the first flush. 'R. fedtschenkoana' had just one success out of four or five cuttings, but if I remember correctly, all of 'DLFED 3' took.

If you're impatient, you may wish to check Long Ago Roses for 'DLFED 3', since I sent an extra there a few years ago.


Reply #5 of 10 posted 22 MAY by JasonSims1984
I can wait. :) I'm so excited for just the offer. I love moss roses, and I definitely want to be working on that heavily. I would be very happy to send you some Iris, or perhaps a rose you might find interesting. I get send you tons of rugosa stuff. I'm going to be crossing rugosas and similar species with lots of lavenders, mauves, purples, and magentas. Hearts, Moons, Stars, Clovers and Baloons! Sorry, I just had to. Yeah, I'm going to be playing around with bracteata and roxburghii, so I'll have neat things to send you. You'll have to be very patient for that, as it will be a couple years. But I'll have tons of rugosa rubra and alba seedlings this Summer.
Reply #6 of 10 posted 22 MAY by AquaEyes
Thank you, and keep me in mind should you have any OGRs to spare, as well as any named old perennials. I'm starting a heritage rose garden at a 50-acre park-like 19th Century cemetery. Eventually, everything appropriate from my garden will be either propagated for there, or moved there directly. Anything I can get donated means I'm able to direct money toward other things for there.


Reply #7 of 10 posted 22 MAY by Rupert, Kim L.
Christopher, would bearded iris be sufficiently hardy there? I have Crimson King, an 1894 Victorian repeat flowering bearded iris, which was shared with me from the Historic Sacramento Cemetery. It does flower several times a year and it spreads well.

You're welcome to some if you want it. It's the only iris I grow.
Reply #10 of 10 posted 22 MAY by AquaEyes
Kim, yes, 'Crimson King' is on my list. Just as I made that huge list of date-appropriate roses, I've been making lists of other plants to use, as well as bookmarking nurseries that carry heirloom/historic cultivars.


Reply #8 of 10 posted 22 MAY by JasonSims1984
I can provide several historic diploid (smaller flowered and species-like) Iris. If you want a really low maintenance and exotic flower, you would love Daturas. They have huge trumpet shaped flowers that open up at night and smell like lemons and jasmine. Rugosas are also prime territory for old fashioned charm. I might have some perrenial scented geraniums. They have blue flowers and the foliage smells pungeantly like patchouli. Nicotiana sylvestris and alata are great self sowing annuals. Oh, and opium poppies. Peony flowered, Danish Flags, Hungarian Blue. I can hook you up if you can give me some time. :)
Reply #9 of 10 posted 22 MAY by AquaEyes
Jason, thank you! Those layers won't be used for at least another year, so now rush at all. This is my first year starting it, and will be about finding areas and prepping them with cardboard and mulch. I'll message you with my email.


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