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'Compassion ®' rose Reviews & Comments
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Hello everyone,
I'm looking to identify a 5 foot plant that was somewhere between 'Compassion' and Kordes' Rosenseli but with a better formed flower than both which was colourfast, darker than 'Compassion' and held upright in groups of up to 3. It may have just been a tall, slender HT plant but really the standout feature was its fragrance which to sniff was medium 'rose' but 1-2 blooms in the vase easily spread it throughout the house - very powerful, of warm strawberries with maybe touches of vanilla and lime. Not at all spicy. Any ideas?
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Sorry Marlorena, I don't have a photo. If I did then it would be simple for me to find it with the help of HMF members. After looking for several years I even conversed with a judge from the RNRS and have searched right through the 'Rosebook' pages online and about 40 of my illustrated books and encyclopaedias all with no success.
The plant was growing in a friend's garden in South Norfolk, England, UK back in 2014. The property was bulldozed before I realised that my sister-in-law had been given permission to take cuttings and transfer the root mass - otherwise it could have ended up in my collection. Sadly, the owners of the property have since passed away. At the time I just assumed it would be easy for me to buy another plant of it from a local nursery but not so and I don't think I've seen it in online shops in the UK, Europe or anywhere. What I can tell you is that its fragrance (when in a vase) was more sensational and fruitier than 'Fragrant Cloud' and many others - though the colour of the blooms was a shade lighter than FC but more of a duller coral pink-orange - non-fading but in a line-up of coral pink HTs you might not single it out.. However, it had an excellent spiralled and reflexed form, a high centre and never flattened out or showed its middle. It lasted 5-8 days in the vase.
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In that case, I doubt anyone will be able to help you. It's often a tall order even with a photo.
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I agree but it's the fragrance (when left in a vase) that puts my mystery rose in another league and not the appearance of the sparse and leggy plant or its blooms though they were good (see my descriptions above and on the 'Rosenresli' and 'Norma Major' pages) and that's why there must be someone out there who knows.
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 HubertG
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Maybe 'Paris Charm'??
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'Thank you for your suggestion HubertG but I don't think it could be anything with 'Prima Ballerina' or Mischief' as a parent as those blooms can look too cabbagey and densely double and the same with the larger 'Fragrant Cloud'. My mystery plant had neat, uniform blooms with a high-centred, turbinated and 'boxy' lantern shape which never flattened out or showed the middle before the petals eventually dropped off. I grew Prima Ballerina this year and was seriously disappointed by the quality of scent, the form of the flower and the shortness of the plant. I had allowed myself to believe it would be something spectacular and 'Paris Charm' looks like it inherited the form of its parents plus PC's colour is too shrimpy and (according to 'Rosebook') it can have clusters of 5-7 blooms as well as single ones - my plant's were solitary, or up to 3. Also can Paris Charm get 5-foot tall in the UK?
People might think 'Yawn - there's no pleasing some' but though the mystery plant definitely looked like a familiar coral hybrid tea it was at least comparable in form and colour to something like 'Touch of Class' (but never such large blooms) and way better than most in the fragrance department - my clear favourite here.
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