HelpMeFind Roses, Clematis and Peonies
Roses, Clematis and Peonies
and everything gardening related.
Search PostsPosts By CategoryRecent Posts 
Recent Questions, Answers and Comments
most recent today HIDE POSTS
Initial post today by HubertG
Possibly a contender for the Nantawarra Pink?
Reply #1 of 1 posted today by Margaret Furness
Can't say it would have occurred to me to call my "Nantawarra Pink" violet-shaded. Its colour is very variable, but I haven't seen any sporting as such. Mme Cusin seems to have been unstable with unstable sports.
Interesting that a couple of references say Mme Cusin is vigorous, whereas Dr H Thomas says it isn't a strong grower. Not in his garden, perhaps.
The 1903 reference says "the thorns are somewhat poisonous." I wonder what that meant?
most recent today HIDE POSTS
Initial post today by Vesfl
A few days ago I was again on a brief visit to New Orleans and visited this garden. I've met the curator and would ask you to please add his name to the information about this public garden:
Mr. Leo Watermeier, the curator of the Louis Armstrong Park Rose Garden, New Orleans
I'm not sure if you need the reference, but in case you do, he is affiliated with the New Orleans Old Garden Rose Society.

Also, if you kindly please add a few more roses to the plants grown in this park:
Comtesse Riza du Parc (tea, 1876)
Gloire de Dijon ((tea-noisette, 1850)
Madame Laurette Messimy (china, 1887)
Maréchal Niel (tea-noisette, 1864)
Rêve d'Or (tea-noisette, 1869)
Souvenir d’un Ami (tea, 1846)

I've posted the photos of most of these as well as others from my last trip this month. Thank you in advance.
Reply #1 of 2 posted today by Patricia Routley
Aha - I recall meeting Mr. Watermeier at the 2010 Heritage Roses in Australia conference in Brisbane and there is a rather nice photograph of him in the HelpMeFind file for "Carlsruhe Cemetery Maria Bruhn".

His name is now added as Curator, and I have added those roses.
Many thanks Vesfi
Reply #2 of 2 posted today by Margaret Furness
Also in the Devoniensis file, another photo taken at Carlsruhe cemetery.
most recent today HIDE POSTS
Initial post today by HubertG
From the Rosen-Zeitung Dec 1903 page 77, accompanying the colour plate of Mme Jacques Charreton and Mme Badin.

MME BADIN (Croibier 1897).

Die beiden Teerosen sind keine der erstklassigen Prunkrosen und nicht zu allen Zwecken unter die empfehlenswertesten zu reiben, sondern sie haben Wert als Sammlungs-Rosen durch ihr reiches Blühes und ihre eigenartgen Färbungen.


Mme Badin wurde von einem erst in den letzten Jahren unter die Neuheitzüchter geratenen Lyoner Rosengärtner dem Handel übergeben. Diese Rose erinnert im Bau, in der Farbe und dem Wuchs an Mme Cusin, doch sind die Blumen länger gestielt und reiner in der Farbe. Mme Badin ist reichblühend wie eine Bengalrose, dabei von festem Bau, spitzknospig, mittelgross und gut gefüllt, aber bei jedem Wetter leicht aufblühend. Die Farbe ist auf dem Bilde richtig wiedergegeben, das lebhafte karminrot am Rande wechselt mit einem kupfriggelben Ton zur Mitte zu ab. Der Strauch bleibt niedrig, ist reich seitwärts verzweigt und bildet, in Partieen zusammen gepflanzt, dankbare Beete und gute zum Schnitt geeignete Blumen. Das Laub ist fest lederartig, glänzend dunkelgrün.

My translation:

These two tea roses are not among the first-class show roses nor among the most recommended for all purposes, but they have value as collection roses because of their generous flowering and their singular colourations.


Mme Badin was introduced into commerce by a Lyon rose gardener, who had only in recent years become a breeder of new varieties. This rose is reminiscent of Mme Cusin in construction, colour and growth, but the flowers are longer stalked and are purer in colour. Mme Badin is free flowering like a China rose, while having a solid construction, pointed buds, is medium-sized and nicely double, yet opening easily in any weather. The colour is accurately reproduced in the illustration, the lively carmine red on the edge changing to a coppery yellow shade towards the centre. The shrub remains low, branching sideways well and, when planted together, forms rewarding beds and good flowers suitable for cutting. The foliage is hard and leathery, shiny dark green.
most recent today HIDE POSTS
Initial post today by Patricia Routley
An interesting photo. I don't think we are seeing such creamy yellow tones in Australia.
© 2018