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Initial post today by UrbanRoseMan
So glad to find your new garden Cliff. Always wondered what you were up to after closing Eurodesert. Thanks for sharing your great photos.
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Initial post 2 days ago by Margaret Furness
Watch out for friends who are compulsive deadheaders... Fortunately since it's close to the ground, it may be relatively safe.
Reply #1 of 5 posted 2 days ago by HubertG
I'll be keeping a close eye on this one, Margaret. I'm more concerned with possums and anything else that nibbles, to be honest.
Reply #2 of 5 posted yesterday by HubertG
After such a long dry spell, it rained fairly heavily overnight, and so not wanting to risk the whole thing rotting, I felt I had no choice but to remove all the petals. It was rather a pity really, but at least it revealed an otherwise normal Maman Cochet bloom.
Reply #3 of 5 posted yesterday by HubertG
I took a few photos. There were a few stamens on the flower but it didn't look as if any of the pollen sacs had opened
Reply #4 of 5 posted yesterday by Margaret Furness
Based on advice from various Oz rose-breeders, I remove all petals but one (that one helps to find the flower later) and the stamens from flowers I pollinate, so there's pretty well nothing left to attract bees. I put a coloured twist-tie around the stem to help find the hip later on. Warren M also cuts one sepal across to show himself that he has pollinated the flower.
Anticipating your question: no, I haven't bred anything worth releasing. There are enough mediocre roses out there already!
Reply #5 of 5 posted today by HubertG
Yes, this wasn't fertilised in the 'proper' way because it was already open and exposed when I discovered it, so any future progeny can't be certain of their father. However that doesn't really matter that much to me because anything I get from this will still be a "seedling of Maman Cochet" which is pretty special. Although, I daresay that if the Lorraine Lee cross took, that rose is distinctive enough that I'd think I'd be able to discern some qualities of it in any seedlings.
The bread tags are a good idea because you can write the date and cross in pencil on them, and if you use a colour that stands out it's easy to find.
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Initial post today by HubertG
Rose Listing Omission


I found this in the 1901 catalogue of 'Childs' Rare Flowers, Vegetables and Fruit.' page 35

"New Rose, Dorothie. One of the most beautiful of Roses. Color hard to describe, but perfection in tint. It is a sport from Perle des Jardins, and is a lovely mingling of pink and tawny buff. A warm lovely color, but lacking the coppery red found in Sunset. A very distinct and valuable variety. The finest of the Perle family. Foliage as handsome as the flower. With us it has proved to be an extra free bloomer, and we regard it as one of the very finest of Tea Roses. 30c each; 2 for 50c; 5 for $1.00."

There is an engraving of the flower accompanying the description.
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Initial post today by Mariano
Dear all,

This is a summary of the message I received from KORDES ROSEN, regarding HT ‘Isabel de Ortíz’ (Reimer Kordes, Germany, 1962).

“Isabel de Ortiz is the beautiful family member of the head gardener Ramón Ortiz Ferré, who takes care of the urban facilities such as the Parque del Oeste in Madrid with effort and much enthusiasm.
That is why it was the desire of the leading circles in the International Competition for New Roses of the City of Madrid (CONCURSO INTERNACIONAL ROSAS NUEVAS VILLA DE MADRID) that she should be godmother for this new breed.”

Reply #1 of 1 posted today by Patricia Routley
Thank you Mariano. I just can’t bring myself to add this “godmother” tripe, but have added the basic details of who the lady was to the main page.
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