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most recent 10 JUN 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 JUN 12 by SteffenAlbrecht
Can some rust on an otherwise healthy rose just be ignored? The books and websites I read all recommend drastic measures (removing all affected leaves, spraying with fungicides etc.), suggesting that rust is a deadly disease that has to be fought by all means possible the moment it occurs--but then on the other hand reading three years' worth of entries for the search word "rust" in this forum shows that a lot of people seem to have roses that get rust once in a while. Apparantely rust CAN kill a rose if it's badly affected, but can a rose live with a certain amount of rust and even continue to produce healthy leaves? The way a rose can--as even I with my limited experience know by now--live basically forever with SOME blackspot.
Reason I ask is I got a lovely Queen Elizabeth with some small rust spots on some new leaves this spring (but none the year before I seem to recall) and am completely averse to spraying with chemicals. Can I just wait and see?
Thank you for any comments!
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 9 JUN 12 by Jay-Jay
A little of rust doesn't kill the plant, but You might spray with tea made of (oder jauche von) Equisetum, to get more resistance against all kinds of fungi.
And another solution might be to use simple spraying-sulphur. Only watch out for the Ladybirds(Marienkäfer)
or use an alkali-silicate solution (eine Wasserglaslösung)
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 9 JUN 12 by SteffenAlbrecht
Thank you! I am already doing that (spraying with field horsetail - equisetum).
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 9 JUN 12 by Jay-Jay
Zur stärkung und Blattdüngung der Blätter benutze ich Jauche gemacht von Schachtelhalm mit Brennessel. 14 tage ziehen und eventuell Lavamehl/Eiffelgold dazu (weniger Gestank) und verdünnen eins zu fünf mit Wasser. Dann über die ganze Blattmasse giessen oder spritzen.
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 9 JUN 12 by SteffenAlbrecht
Mache ich auch - I'm doing the same. Good thing is we got a lot of stinging nettles in the garden; bad thing is horsetail is scarce. Your German is incredible btw.
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 9 JUN 12 by Jay-Jay
Look for places where disturbed or impenetrable layers are in the ground, like normal, or boulder-clay.
Often Equisetum grows at waysides or on the edge of ditches/canals.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 10 JUN 12 by Jay-Jay
Es gibt getrockneter Schachtelhalm in Reform-Läden.
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 10 JUN 12 by SteffenAlbrecht
But surely the real stuff is more potent--and cheaper!
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 10 JUN 12 by Jay-Jay
If You can get it!!!
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